Face Frame, How do YOU do it?

[Steveo O'Banion]

I've made face frames using dowels and now bisquits. I'd like to know how you do it? I'm being seduced by a friend that has a Kreg pocket hole jig.:eek:

How do you make face frames? I'm about to start on another kitchen for my wife starting w a 96" x 54" pantry.

Steve

[Steve Clardy]

Pocket screws

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[Nancy Laird]

Biscuits - that way you don't have an ugly hole staring at you from where you put the face frames on.

Nancy

[Steve Clardy]

Biscuits - that way you don't have an ugly hole staring at you from where you put the face frames on.

Nancy

Psst Nancy. Holes are on the back side of frame, unseen;):D

[Rich Torino]

For me it depends on what I building... A curio cabinet from exotics I'd use mortis and tennon.. if I'm making kitchen cabinets or a utility cabinet out of say poplar to be painted I'd use pocket screws.

[Greg Funk]

I use dowels (dowlemax) for the same reason Nancy mentioned. I don't like the big ugly holes pocket screws make. If I was doing it for a living I might not care since you can't really see the holes but I'd know they were there.

Greg

[Greg Heppeard]

Ditto on Kreg...for more than just face frames.

[Dave Falkenstein]

Kreg pocket hole jig for me too.

[Craig D Peltier]

All face frames on cabinets I use pocket holes. Also aprons on small end tables.

[Joe Chritz]

Kreg for building and installing the face frames.

Occasionally if I don't want to do an applied panel or frame end I will just glue and clamp that side.

Joe

[Jason Beam]

Kreg jig.

I also mount the FF to the carcass with pocket holes, too - just to bug Nancy :D

[Von Bickley]

Kreg Pocket Hole Jig for me.....

I haven't used any biscuits since I got the pocket hole jig.:D

[Mark Engel]

I use biscuits/glue to attach and align the face frames to the cabinet. If there are any internal rails/stiles, I attach them with pocket screws/glue.

[Chris Padilla]

I just nail 'em.

...and when that eventually fails, I use my D~o~m~i~n~o.....

:D

[M. A. Espinoza]

Pocket screws, and nail/glue to the box.

If its a higher end job then I would skip the nails and biscuit or spline.

This is for cabinet grade build only.

[Gary Keedwell]

Glue

Gary

[Jim Becker]

Pocket screws and glue...

[Steve Clardy]

Kreg jig.

I also mount the FF to the carcass with pocket holes, too - just to bug Nancy :D


Yes. Nancy needs to be bugged. Often :D

[Simon Dupay]

Almost all cabinetmakers use pocket screws & nail/glue to the boxes, pocket screws are the only way IMHO.

[Art Mann]

I used to use pocket screws but now I use a Dowelmax. It is easier to get an absolutely perfect fit.

[Bob Michaels]

Pocket holes to assemble face frame, Domino to attach face frame to carcase.

[John-Paul Murphy]

pocket screws and glue

[keith ouellette]

pocket screws to make the frame (they cant be seen) and atatch the frame to the box with biscuits.

[Rob Will]

I'm not much of a cabinet maker but a pocket hole jig comes in handy for lots of things around the shop. Mine is mounted on a cart so it is always ready. See thread.
http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=62208&highlight=pocket+hole+cart

Kreg sells videos that illustrate building things with pocket holes.
http://www.amazon.com/Kreg-V03-DVD-Pocket-Joinery-Cabinet/dp/B0007VYL3E/ref=pd_bxgy_hi_text_b/104-6667570-8999941

Rob

[Bill Huber]

I use high quality 3M duct tape to make the face frame and double bubble gum to hold them on..... Ok, I don't use bubble gum to hold them on.



I use the DowlMax dowel system to make the face frames and up until the last cabinet I built I use brads and glue to mount them. The last cabinet I made I use pocket screws and glue to mount the frames to the cabinets.

[Anthony Whitesell]

All of the above. I use pocket screws to hold the face frame together, the bottom in, and the sides and back together. But I use dowels or biscuts to attached the face frame to the carcass. In other words, pocket screws if you have no chance of seeing the holes, and dowels/biscuts where the holes would be able to be seen.

[Jeff Wright]

I use dominos to assemble the face frames and attach to the carcase with the Sommerfeld method of offset tongue and grooves.

[Sue Wise]

I have only done one cabinet so far, but I used pocket screws via Kreg jig, dominoes to align on front of cabinet, then a few pocket screws and glue to attach the frame to the cabinet.

-Sue

[frank shic]

pocket screws cut with the porter cable pocket cutter OR steve clardy's affordable machine. the lower angle minimizes the shifting that occurs with the kreg.

[Steven Herbin]

Current = Sommerfeld method - offset tongue and groove and pocket screws.

Once I can "justify" it = Sommerfeld method (face frame to sides and shelves) + Domino (hold face frame together).

I found that the Sommerfeld method keeps everything in alignment and gives more glue surface. Haven't had an alignment problem yet.

[John Maus]

I use biscuits for both frame construction and attaching the face frame to the case. Haven't had any problems yet and don't have any brad holes to fill/disguise.

John

[frank shic]

if you like using the biscuit jointer for face frames, check out lamello's fixo self-clamping biscuit:

http://www.lamello.com/en/downloads/application-videos/wood-joining-system/joining-wood/fixo-the-self-clamping-biscuit.html

[Todd Bin]

I had to sound dumb but what is sommerfield's method??

[John-Paul Murphy]

hope the link works
sommerfield (http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?p=581072#poststop)

[Don Morris]

Pocket screws/glue to boot/ knowing the screws are there and out of sight gives me a warm fuzzy feeling in my tummy.

[John Gregory]

Same as Steve


Pocket screws

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