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Matt P
12-23-2007, 10:52 PM
Hi,
I am right-handed and am used to a right-side blade, where my left hand holds down the workpiece, and the scrap falls off to the right.

If I use a left-blade circular saw, does that mean I have to reverse everything?? - that is, can the body of the workpiece still be to my left as it was before?? But then the weight of the saw motor is resting on the scrap piece?? Not sure I explained this clearly..! I'm confused.

Tx,
matt

Rick Moyer
12-23-2007, 11:11 PM
Matt, I've always had a right blade circular saw but recently decided to buy a left blade saw (Milwaukee). I like the ease of seeing the cut line better now, but I mainly use it to cut sheet goods down to size and support both sides anyway. I suspect it would be a minor issue if you were cutting off decking, or in situations where you have the waste side un-supported, as you suggest; but I like the ease of seeing the cut-line.

John Thompson
12-23-2007, 11:22 PM
You explained it just the way it is. I thought before purchase that the left side blade would be easier to see which would be good. So I purchased a PC 324 left. But... I was smart enough to raise the blade and make a dry cut without power when I got it back to the shop.

The results were I boxed it back up and returned it for a right side blade as I have used all my life for the reasons you mentioned. I am right handed and the left blade feels very out of place from the get-go to me when in an actual use situation.

I ran across a similar thread elsewhere the other day that a gentleman did not test his first and he posted to me he wished he had. He's stuck with the left blade and is a right hander. He discovered the same but after he actually used the saw. Right blade for R-handers and left blade for L-handers is the ticket as I see it.

Please... if you are considering a left and are R-handed... go to the Box and put one in your hand and make a dry run with it. Make up your own mind and I think I know what the outcome will be. I even feel that having the saw on the drop off side is an accident waiting to happen with anything but the utmost attention and balance at all times.

Just my thoughts....

Sarge..

Mike Marcade
12-23-2007, 11:39 PM
Like you fellas I have used a right blade circular saw for most of my life, I just switched over to a Dewalt Hypoid Saw with the left blade. It does feel kinda weird but the balance is so much better with the motor inline with the handle and I like being able to see so much better.

Kelley Storch
12-24-2007, 12:05 AM
Hi,
I am right-handed and am used to a right-side blade, where my left hand holds down the workpiece, and the scrap falls off to the right.

If I use a left-blade circular saw, does that mean I have to reverse everything?? - that is, can the body of the workpiece still be to my left as it was before?? But then the weight of the saw motor is resting on the scrap piece?? Not sure I explained this clearly..! I'm confused.

Tx,
matt

Matt,
I'm right handed but I prefer the left hand blade because I can watch the cut line without trying to look over the saw or trying to use the alignment mark on the shoe. I can and have used the "regular" righthanded skil saws but find my self "working" harder to get a straight cut. However, my father taught me using his all metal beast of a worm drive saw which had the blade on the left, so that makes a difference.
So to address your question, by cutting like this the weight of the saw is unsupported by the material after the cut is made leaving you to control the saw by strength.
Is that the correct/safest way of doing things... nope, but thats how quite of few of us do it.
My advise is if you can cut straight using a saw with the blade on the right, then stick with the way you've been doing it.

My 1st post here, so what do I know ;)

Ron Jones near Indy
12-24-2007, 12:16 AM
I used a right handed B&D before switching to a left bladed Saw Boss for most jobs. I wish I had bought the Saw Boss a long time ago. I adjusted to the left blade with no problems.

Dave MacArthur
12-24-2007, 12:18 AM
Uhmm... you all are talking as if you couldn't just flip the workpiece around 180 degrees and do the cut... with the saw now supported on the "keeper". Every cut can be done BOTH ways with either saw. As I see it, if you ever find yourself cutting with the saw body supported on the waste side, you're standing on the wrong side of the board...

That being said, I don't actually have a good answer for whether to use a left-hand saw if you're left handed, or vise versa, or whatever. I read these threads when they come up with enthusiasm. My problem is that I'm ambidextrous--it doesn't matter WHAT saw I use or WHICH direction I run it, everything feels equally right and wrong at the same time. If one of you would just COMMIT with enthusiasm to an answer on this, I could just be done with all this waffling, buy the saw you recommend, and feel good about my circular saw finally! ;)

Tom Veatch
12-24-2007, 12:26 AM
You explained it just the way it is. I thought before purchase that the left side blade would be easier to see which would be good. So I purchased a PC 324 left. But... I was smart enough to raise the blade and make a dry cut without power when I got it back to the shop......

I wasn't! (Smart enough, that is.)

When I finally let the smoke out of my 30+ year old Craftsman, I bought one of the PC left blades for the same reason - visibility of the cut line. Took it home and put it to work finishing the deck. Went back the next day and got the right blade version. So now I have one of each.

Maybe it's just that I have too many years as a right handed person using a right blade saw to break old habits, but I simply could not find a comfortable way to make crosscuts with the left blade saw and felt that it was an accident waiting to happen.

Tom Veatch
12-24-2007, 12:46 AM
Uhmm... you all are talking as if you couldn't just flip the workpiece around 180 degrees and do the cut... with the saw now supported on the "keeper". Every cut can be done BOTH ways with either saw. As I see it, if you ever find yourself cutting with the saw body supported on the waste side, you're standing on the wrong side of the board..
....

I found that when I flip the workpiece 180 - or move to the other side of the board - then, since the "keeper" is usually the longer of the two parts, my free hand is supporting/holding the waste with the "keeper" part resting on the sawhorses but otherwise unrestrained. I found that without clamping or having a helper hold the board, I felt very unbalanced (no pun intended) and insecure making the cut.

YMMV, but for me it was enough to make me go back and get a right blade saw.

Norman Pyles
12-24-2007, 1:14 AM
Used right bladed saws for years, last Christmas picked up a Ryobi battery powered left bladed saw. It is very hard for me to get used to. I can use it ok, but just doesn't feel right. Might be something about an old dog, and new tricks.

Dino Makropoulos
12-24-2007, 1:32 AM
I found that when I flip the workpiece 180 - or move to the other side of the board - then, since the "keeper" is usually the longer of the two parts, my free hand is supporting/holding the waste with the "keeper" part resting on the sawhorses but otherwise unrestrained. I found that without clamping or having a helper hold the board, I felt very unbalanced (no pun intended) and insecure making the cut.

YMMV, but for me it was enough to make me go back and get a right blade saw.

Smart move to use a right bladed saw.
For free hand cuts, right 4 right and left 4 left.

Some food for thought.
The Canadian OSHA agrees with R4R and L4L.
All marketing pictures and videos of the left bladed saws ...
shown left hand users.:confused:
Insurance liability? :rolleyes:

Happy and safe sawing...with the right saw.

Dave MacArthur
12-24-2007, 3:13 AM
Ok, this thread got me thinking, so I went out to the garage, looked at my saws, and cut some 2x4s. Turns out I am even more messed up than I thought, and this discussion is not helping LOL...
I have a Black and Decker 3028 Sawcat corded saw, blade on the right. Turns out I MOSTLY use it with my left hand...who knew? I like to be able to see the sightline. However, while cutting ends off a 2x4, I found myself naturally switching the saw to my right hand as the board grew shorter. And I tended to always switch to whichever hand left the saw body supported by the keeper, whichever side of the board I was on... I just didn't feel a need to walk to the other side of the board, it seems simpler to switch hands instead. Erm.. are you telling me folks are really not comfortable holding a handle and squeezing a trigger with either hand?

My other saw is a 14.4 volt cordless DeWalt 938, and it has the blade on the LEFT. If you had asked me 30 min ago, I would have told you both saws have the blade on the same side. I found I naturally used my right hand with that saw, and never felt like switching it to the left-perhaps because of the light weight.

Now from reading above, it sounds like I am doing it exactly opposite what most of you find comfortable? I'm doing R4L with the corded, and L4R with the cordless. I guess I always thought the R bladed saws were made for L handers, so you could SEE what you were doing with the blade.

Kelley Storch
12-24-2007, 4:33 AM
One of the biggest problems I run into using a saw with the blade on the left is actually finding LH blades. Seems most Home Depot/Lowes stores don't stock them. Some clerks just give you a blank stare (must not know anything) and others try to help but usually can't even find the space on the shelf for the LH blades. Must be special order I guess:rolleyes:

Stan Welborn
12-24-2007, 8:27 AM
I used blade right saws for 30 years. Recently I bought the PC blade left for the reasons already given. I didn't "dry test first" and would have returned it immediately if I had. A couple of months later... I wouldn't trade back for anything. After my body got over the new 'hey, this ain't right' feeling, I love it and won't ever go back.

David Tiell
12-24-2007, 8:46 AM
Back when I was building a house, I bought two PC saws. One at a pawn shop, and one at a yard sale. One was left, the other right. I found myself just grabbing whichever was closest and was comfortable using either. House is done, but when I need a saw, I still just grab the first one I see. I would agree with others who recommend holding it first, since I can't actually recommend one or the other.

Bill Spievak
12-24-2007, 9:48 AM
I've used worm drive saws, all of them have been left blade, and sidewinders that have the blade on the right and and few with the blade on the left. I own one worm drive and one sidewinder. My sidewinder is right bladed and presents some difficulty seeing the cut, but it is lighter and easier to hold when no saw horses or bench is available. I bet that my worm drive, a 15 year old Skill, is 5 pounds heavier than my Mak sidewinder. Cuttiing 2x stock one at a time, I use the sidewinder. That said, when I gang cut the worm drive is all I use, and when I cut without a saw horse or bench with the worm drive I let the weight of the saw make the cut, so I'm only using my strength to guide it.

Greg Sznajdruk
12-24-2007, 10:21 AM
My problem is that I'm ambidextrous--it doesn't matter WHAT saw I use or WHICH direction I run it, everything feels equally right and wrong at the same time. If one of you would just COMMIT with enthusiasm to an answer on this, I could just be done with all this waffling, buy the saw you recommend, and feel good about my circular saw finally! ;)

Dave:

I'm ambidextrous too, unfortunatly I can't do anything with either hand.
( An old plum my Dad used to use.):D


Greg

Matt P
12-24-2007, 10:49 AM
Matt,

So to address your question, by cutting like this the weight of the saw is unsupported by the material after the cut is made leaving you to control the saw by strength.


So with a left-blade saw, if I continue to use my left hand to hold down the keeper piece, the only part of the saw resting on the keeper would be 1/2 of the shoe, with the motor over the scrap piece. Is that correct?

Kelley Storch
12-24-2007, 11:11 AM
So with a left-blade saw, if I continue to use my left hand to hold down the keeper piece, the only part of the saw resting on the keep would be 1/2 of the shoe, with the motor over the scrap piece. Is that correct?

If you meant to say about 1/2 an inch of the shoe or so, then yes thats correct.

John Thompson
12-24-2007, 11:17 AM
Ditto Tom Veatch's comments on using it from the other side. When I originally thought I thought this thing through, I factored I could just start the cut from the other side to gain the slightly better sight line. So.. the the left sounded like a winner for me on paper.

When I got it home and "dry fired", all was still well with the first "dry cut" across a 8" piece of stock.... :) But... when I ran it across a sheet of ply to simulate cut down... that feeling of joy "went south" as soon as I had to lean forward reaching the far side.

What I realized is that my strong right hand was holding the saw.. but my left hand would at that point be placed on the good side to help with balance as I made the lean. I am not an NBA player with 5' arms. I felt totally out of control, twisted and contorted trying to keep my balance and I realized that I did not want to deal with this feeling with 15 A's being powered to a spinning blade.

So.. again I re-iterate that it would be best to put a saw in your hand and not only replicate a narrow cut... but a wide one that most of us without sliders use to down-size a sheet of ply before taking to the TS. It just makes sense to me to see how you feel under all conditions you use the saw for before deciding which is good for you.

You have to provide your own answer ito which is best for you is perhaps the bottom line of reality.

Sarge..

Matt P
12-24-2007, 11:17 AM
Also, most of my cuts will be not too well stabilized - e.g. the keeper piece on a saw horse, held down by my left hand..

It doesn't seem great that with a left-blade saw, only a little of the shoe will ride on the keeper piece.. ugh.. still confused.

Mike Cutler
12-24-2007, 11:40 AM
Hi,
I am right-handed and am used to a right-side blade, where my left hand holds down the workpiece, and the scrap falls off to the right.

If I use a left-blade circular saw, does that mean I have to reverse everything?? - that is, can the body of the workpiece still be to my left as it was before?? But then the weight of the saw motor is resting on the scrap piece?? Not sure I explained this clearly..! I'm confused.

Tx,
matt

Matt.
I use both a Makita right handed saw, and a Milwaukee Wormdrive left saw.
I personally don't feel comfortable having the weight of the saw on the offcast piece, unless it's supported properly. Just me though.
One point I haven't seen mentioned, or missed, is dust. A left handed saw throws the dust up into my face( At least my Milwaukee does). Not a big deal, it can be managed, but it is a difference.
I should mention that I use a circular saw for a lot more than breaking down sheetgoods and cutting 2x4's. I use it in conjunction with an edge guide system to make the initial rips on long boards. To either get them closer to correct size, or ready for jointing an edge.
This probably accounts for how I can get a face full of sawdust.

I like having both available.

Pat Germain
12-24-2007, 12:07 PM
I think we're debating something here which is purely personal preference. While only 10% of any population is "left handed", there are also variables. Some lefties, like me, do almost everything left handed. Some mix it up depending on the task.

Thus, whether one prefers the blade on the left, the blade on the right, or likes to have both available is going to depend purely on the individual. I don't care what OSHA or any other safety bureacrats say. There is no right or wrong way in this case. If you're a lefty, but feel most comfortable using a saw with the blade on the right, then you should do just that.

Personally, I hated growing up a lefty in a right-handed world. Even worse were ignorant teachers who (like OSHA) tried to tell me they knew best. When I went to buy a saw, I bought the PC lefty saw because that's what I wanted and it works great for me. I think the suggestion to try a saw first is a very good one. YMMV.

Matt P
12-24-2007, 12:49 PM
I guess it just seems that if I am going to do a lot of guided cuts with the saw (using a straight-edge guide), with the keeper piece on the left, that a left-blade saw wouldn't have enough base to keep it stable (only a little of the shoe would be riding on the keeper piece, with the motor over the scrap). So it seems that a right-blade would be the better choice here.

Billy Chambless
12-24-2007, 1:21 PM
I've found it easy to see the line of cut on my Milwaukee 6390-20. it's a right-blade saw with an apening in the blade guard to allow the user to view the cut line.

Brian Weick
12-24-2007, 1:35 PM
Hi,
I am right-handed and am used to a right-side blade, where my left hand holds down the workpiece, and the scrap falls off to the right.

If I use a left-blade circular saw, does that mean I have to reverse everything?? - that is, can the body of the workpiece still be to my left as it was before?? But then the weight of the saw motor is resting on the scrap piece?? Not sure I explained this clearly..! I'm confused.

Tx,
matt

I think you meant right or left cut setup- I don't believe they make a right or left sided blade as far as circular saws go.
Merry Christamss, :)
Brian

Randal Stevenson
12-24-2007, 1:45 PM
I think we're debating something here which is purely personal preference. While only 10% of any population is "left handed", there are also variables. Some lefties, like me, do almost everything left handed. Some mix it up depending on the task.

Thus, whether one prefers the blade on the left, the blade on the right, or likes to have both available is going to depend purely on the individual. I don't care what OSHA or any other safety bureacrats say. There is no right or wrong way in this case. If you're a lefty, but feel most comfortable using a saw with the blade on the right, then you should do just that.

Personally, I hated growing up a lefty in a right-handed world. Even worse were ignorant teachers who (like OSHA) tried to tell me they knew best. When I went to buy a saw, I bought the PC lefty saw because that's what I wanted and it works great for me. I think the suggestion to try a saw first is a very good one. YMMV.

In America it is considered strictly a choice. Canada, it is a regulation. While I am nearly ambidextrous (like a lot of lefties have to be), I am left dominate. With a right blade saw, the dust would tend to shoot out, right at me, as I would cut. The keeper piece could be either piece, depended on what I was cutting (smaller keeper pieces tended to be the cutoffs so the motor/saws weight was supported). I thought, based on hearing it, that the line of site would be better for me. I didn't then use the site notch, instead I tried to align the blade at the last minute. (wrong thing) Guide systems of any kind (sawboards, EZ, etc) can help with that with either type though.
A worm saw, is a different beast. Its handle is further back and the weight is one the plate, when the saws depth is adjusted to just cut through, the material. The right handers that I knew that used them, didn't use the guards handle as much as us lefties, but most of the users I knew were roofers. They would be holding the saw with their right hand, and cutting down the roof (for board replacement or openings for things as vents, etc). In these cases, the left hand was normally for stablization (the electrical cord, themselves, etc), or to hold their safety lines (on steep roofs).
The problems I have heard with left/right and right/left have been dust issues, and when using a nonfully supported saw, the blade cut towards the user. One user dropped the saw and caught it, finger on the trigger, blade bounced off the leg.

Matt P
12-24-2007, 2:15 PM
Randal - "when using a nonfully supported saw, the blade cut towards the user. One user dropped the saw and caught it, finger on the trigger, blade bounced off the leg."

That is a great piece of advice to consider!

Tom Veatch
12-24-2007, 4:16 PM
I guess it just seems that if I am going to do a lot of guided cuts with the saw (using a straight-edge guide), with the keeper piece on the left, that a left-blade saw wouldn't have enough base to keep it stable (only a little of the shoe would be riding on the keeper piece, with the motor over the scrap). So it seems that a right-blade would be the better choice here.

If both sides of the cut are supported, as in dismembering a sheet of plywood, then I, as a right hander, like the blade left saw. If the offcut is not supported, as in turning a 12' 2x6 into a 11'9" 2x6 then the blade left saw scares me.

As Pat Germain mentioned, it's entirely personal preference and what you feel most comfortable and secure doing.

Did it understand it correctly? It's against some Canadian regulation for someone to use a blade left saw with the right hand, and vice versa? Pat, I agree with your position, OSHA and other regulation worshiping bureaucrats are welcome to stay out of my shop!.

All my comments are simply my observations and opinions and worth exactly what you paid for them.

Bill Ryall
12-24-2007, 4:43 PM
I am right handed, but MUCH prefer a left hand saw. I have a PC with the blade on the left, a Ridgid cordless with a blade on the left, and and older Ryobi with the blade on the right. I used a RH saw for 20 years before switching to the left hand saw. I am much more comfortable with the LH saw in my right hand. I can also comfortably use the LH saws with my left hand, but I have never been able to comfortably use my RH saws in my left hand.