Can anyone Tell me what type of Brace this is?

[Thomas Knighton]

Recently, I purchased a brace and a No. 4 Plane off of everyone's favorite auction site. Thanks to this forum, I was able to get an rough date on when the plane was manufactured (a Type 15 made from 1933-1941). However, I can't seem to place the brace.

It has the clipped corner Stanley symbol, and two Pattens, numbers 1850297 and 1915245. Both of these date from the 1930's, but I can't find anything else.

I'm attaching some photographs in hopes that someone will recognize the type. Any help would be appreciated. I'm pretty new to this antique tool thing, but for $1.25 for the brace and the plane, I couldn't pass it up :)

I'm not able to resize these for some reason, so I had to use photobucket. Apologies in advance.

Thanks,
Tom

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http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h83/tomcat1066/Brace002.jpg

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[Mike K Wenzloff]

No idea what Stanley model the brace is--sorry about that.

Datamp shows a listing for the first patent date:
http://datamp.org/displayPatent.php?number=1850297&typeCode=0

While Datamp doesn't show the second one, it is because of an error on the drawing listing the wrong date most likely. USPTO to the rescue--though your browser needs to support a tiff viewer.
http://patimg1.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=01915245&homeurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpatft.uspto.gov%2Fnetacgi%2Fn ph-Parser%3FSect1%3DPTO1%2526Sect2%3DHITOFF%2526d%3DP ALL%2526p%3D1%2526u%3D%25252Fnetahtml%25252FPTO%25 252Fsrchnum.htm%2526r%3D1%2526f%3DG%2526l%3D50%252 6s1%3D1915245.PN.%2526OS%3DPN%2F1915245%2526RS%3DP N%2F1915245&PageNum=&Rtype=&SectionNum=&idkey=NONE&Input=View+first+page

The first patent regards the chuck itself, the second appears to regard how the chuck afixes to the shaft of the brace.

Sanford Moss' web site has a lot of information on braces in general:
http://www.sydnassloot.com/brace.htm

Take care, Mike

[Thomas Knighton]

Mike,

Here's what I got from the patent numbers:


United States Patent 1850297
Bit or drill holder
Inventors: Volz, Frederick A.
Publication Date: 03/22/1932

United States Patent 1915245
Fastening means for bit brace chucks
Inventors: Cook, Harris J.
Publication Date: 06/20/1933

Since both are from the early 1930's, I'm tempted to assume that the date is from approximately that time period as well. Especially since the No. 4 that I bought with it has been typed to that same basic time period as well. Unfortunately, I'm just to skeptical to believe that just yet.

I paid way to little for these two things for it to be that good of a deal, especially since the plane needs so little work, just a little bit of cleaning mostly.

Thanks for sharing Sanford Moss' site. I'm going to do a more in depth reading now ;)

Tom

Edited to add: I found it. It's a No. 919 10 inch ratcheting brace. I found a number on the brace, but it didn't make any sense to me. Then I turned it over, and it was MUCH clearer ;)

Thanks again!

[Bill Houghton]

The least I've ever paid for a No. 4 plane is $2. You got a bargain!

The brace looks like a nice one - if all the parts work, it should be a good tool.

[Thomas Knighton]

Everything seems to work just fine, though I can't be sure. I'm pretty clueless on the finer points of old tools. However, at $1.25 for the plane and the brace, I'm not complaining even if it's nothing more than a paper weight :D

And to think, I snagged them to learn how to restore tools, and wasn't really worried about whether they would work or not. I figured that, at worst, they could be a cool shop decoration. Instead, I ended up with a pretty good deal. Just need to fine a knob for the No. 4 and some clean up and she'll be good to go :D

Tom

[Bill Houghton]

I think Woodcraft and Tools for Working Wood are two places that will offer replacement knobs. They may need some details about the plane to find the right "fit."

The No. 4 plane is a right handy plane. I use mine regularly. In fact, I have three, and plane fit one up with a cambered iron as a carpentry plane - easing doors in the house, that sort of thing.

[Thomas Knighton]

I think Woodcraft and Tools for Working Wood are two places that will offer replacement knobs. They may need some details about the plane to find the right "fit."

The No. 4 plane is a right handy plane. I use mine regularly. In fact, I have three, and plane fit one up with a cambered iron as a carpentry plane - easing doors in the house, that sort of thing.

Sorry Bill, but I just saw this! Thanks for the heads up. I had seen the knobs on Woodcraft's website, but must have missed them on Tools for Working Wood's.

I'll have to give them both a call and see what comes up.

Thanks again!

Tom