The Macy Photo?

[Bill Fleming]

Hey folks - got lots of visits to my question of "how to make the Macy rim and foot but not a single suggestion or even a hit of where to look via an instructional video, etc......

Is my question too simple? No one really likes or does that look? or is it really hard?

Thx Bill

[Alex Elias]

Can you put a link to the original question? I don't think I've seen it.

[Bill Fleming]

Original question:

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=69375

[Alex Elias]

I guess I have to go dig out the magazine from whatever it is and look at it. Chances are I might not have an answer since I'm far from experienced, but hi'll look into it.
Good luck
Alex

[Bill Fleming]

Macy Cover attached as pdf

[Ken Fitzgerald]

Bill.........I don't think that requires a special tool though you could use a beading tool to do it. I'd do it with a skew or a gouge. It's a learned skill I"m sure.

Turn square cornered rings and then round the corners over. Fine tune them with 80 grit etc.

[John Hart]

I didn't see your earlier question....or the magazine....and I don't know who Macy is.:o

Nope...not hard at all Bill. I like doing a rolled rim, both, because I think it looks nice, and it gives me a chance to dance with my lathe.;)

I'll do a profile of a regular bowl, getting my overall form to have a nice curve...leaving plenty of stock to take the whole outer profile down about a 1/4". Then, using a small gouge or a 1/4" rounded scraper, I'll put the undercut in place. Using the skew, I roll the skew around, starting at the bottom of the rim and come around to the inside...all in one sweeping motion...moving my body all around that curve. Then I take the rest of the outer profile down that 1/4" that I talked about earlier.

[Bill Fleming]

Thx folks, I've made a couple of tries and the results were ok but it felt a "little lucky and too much sand paper" - Always hate to try tricky things on the foot or rim finish.... too easy to move quickly to "safe this bowl of a thing mode"....

Would be interested in seeing anyones details in this area and when I produce one worthy I will post as well.

Cheers - Bill

[David Fried]

Looks like the basic foot is created early when he is roughing out the bowl with a bowl gouge.

I could see shaping the foot with a square scraper myself.

I have to wonder if someone with more skill could roll it with the bowl gouge.

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[Dean Matthews]

Looks like the basic foot is created early when he is roughing out the bowl with a bowl gouge.

I could see shaping the foot with a square scraper myself.

I have to wonder if someone with more skill could roll it with the bowl gouge.

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Not saying I have the requisite skills... but I tried with a bowl gouge and it wasn't happening... not unless you use one of the micro ones. Even my 3/8" spindle was too much.

I am going to bet either a beading tool or a captive ring tool would get the result.

[Bernie Weishapl]

I roll it with either a swept grind 3/8" bowl gouge and sometimes will use a 1/4" spindle gouge. A skew will work great in some instances. I don't see a need for a beading tool.

[TYLER WOOD]

I've rolled a rim or two with either a scraper or a bowl gouge. Either will work, just personal preference I think. Getting the cut in would probably be easier with the gouge.

[Reed Gray]

I would imagine that the rim bead was done with standard chucking. As said before, leave it chunky there, and turn the bowl, then fine tune it with a small spindle/detail gouge. I can fake some things with a skew, but wouldn't want to experiment on some thing like this with one. I would think that the bottom ring was done by reverse chucking. The foot of the bowl for roughing and fine turning could either be a tenon, or a recess. Then when you reverse mount it to finish up the foot, you turn the details on the foot rim. Again, I would use a small spindle/detail gouge. Beads like those should only be sanded with finer grits, as you can quickly and drastically change the shape with the 80 grit gouge.
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[Dean Matthews]

I just re-read the article this evening. On Page 34 he says that he was using a set of Captive Ring tools to make the the rim and foot.