Formula for rail & stile sizes?

[Brian Penning]

I'm going to make another buffet section like the one in the photo but with 3 doors that will be the same width as the drawers above.
Is there a way to calculate what the widths of the rails and stiles should be in proportion to the raised panel size?
Thanks in advance for any and all replies.
http://www.brianpenning.com/index_files/image5301.jpg

[Jeff Raymond]

If it looks good, it is good.

One idea is to find a piece that you like and swipe the dimensions :D

[Ed Peters]

that the rails and stiles on the doors shown are too wide. My standard for rails and stiles in all applications is 2½" wide, regardless of the size of the cabinet door. Much wider than that and they start looking bulky.

Ed

[frank shic]

brian, that's a very nice looking buffet. i usually use 2 3/8" so simplify the math in building raised panel doors. with 2 3/8" wide stiles and a 3/8" tongue, the rail length would simply be 4" shorter than the desired door width. for example, a 10" wide door would require a 6" rail:

10 - 2x2 3/8(stile width) + 2x3/8(tongue)=
10 - 4 3/4 + 3/4=
10 - 4=
6

[Rob Wright]

brian, that's a very nice looking buffet. i usually use 2 3/8" so simplify the math in building raised panel doors. with 2 3/8" wide stiles and a 3/8" tongue, the rail length would simply be 4" shorter than the desired door width. for example, a 10" wide door would require a 6" rail:

10 - 2x2 3/8(stile width) + 2x3/8(tongue)=
10 - 4 3/4 + 3/4=
10 - 4=
6

Frank - That's gold! What and easy way to do that. I will now be changing mine from 2 1/2 to 2 3/8 to make the math easier.


Brian - I like the wider rail and stile on the picture - it reminds me of folk or older primitive country style. The Room & Board catalog has a few with that look to them.

- Rob

[frank shic]

hey rob, don't be too impressed. i finally got it after seeing other people posting about the 2 3/8" standard for the last few years! thank you for introducing me to the world of room and board - another source of ideas to rip o... i mean to emulate! ;)

[Rob Wright]

Frank - don't they have some great easy to build "ideas" in that catalog? My wife gets mad when the catalog comes in the mail and I sit there all night with my sketch pad and try to figure out what I should build next!

-R

[Brian Jarnell]

Question Of taste,I like mine norrow as in this cab I have just made.

http://http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/cicero1520/kitchcab-1.jpg

[Brian Jarnell]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/cicero1520/kitchcab.jpg

Sorry about that,they seem to have changed things and didn't tell me,as one would expect.>)

[Paul Girouard]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/cicero1520/kitchcab.jpg

Sorry about that,they seem to have changed things and didn't tell me,as one would expect.>)

Nice clean lines Brian , what wood was used ? And what type of hinge's ? I don't see and hinge butts , Euro cup hinges?

To the orginal poster , a narrower S&R, say 2 " , IMO , would look better if your staying with / matching a overall width of the cabinet shown and going to a three door "look".

[Brian Jarnell]

Nice clean lines Brian , what wood was used ? And what type of hinge's ? I don't see and hinge butts , Euro cup hinges?

To the orginal poster , a narrower S&R, say 2 " , IMO , would look better if your staying with / matching a overall width of the cabinet shown and going to a three door "look".

Wood is a native of NZ called Rimu,the goverment have kindly mde it so we can't buy due to protection.
Hinges are Blum euros.
It's a style I have developed and I must say all my stuff looks a bit like that.

[Per Swenson]

Hi ya,

Fibinocci series... 1,2,3,5,8,13, 21,........


Rails and stiles 3" and 5"

Drawers are 8" They don't look bulky as they are edged.

Per

[James Reichman]

A nice tip!

[Alex Berkovsky]

10 - 2x2 3/8(stile width) + 2x3/8(tongue)=
10 - 4 3/4 + 3/4=
10 - 4=
6Frank,
I am not following the math here. Shouldn't the formula be something like this?

10 - (2x2 3/8 - 2x3/8) =
10 - (4¾ - ¾) =
10 - 4 = 6

[Mark Gordon]

The two formulas are equal (haha), due to the non-associative principle of addition.


Frank,
I am not following the math here. Shouldn't the formula be something like this?

10 - (2x2 3/8 - 2x3/8) =
10 - (4¾ - ¾) =
10 - 4 = 6

[Mark Gordon]

The real formula is:

10 - 4 = 6 Oh Hell, I made the cabinet a little too narrow,

10-4 - a little jointing and then sanding off the filler, plus a little add on to fit = 5.971234098
Ah ha: PERFECT! (bow)


Frank,
I am not following the math here. Shouldn't the formula be something like this?

10 - (2x2 3/8 - 2x3/8) =
10 - (4¾ - ¾) =
10 - 4 = 6

[Brian Jarnell]

The real formula is:

10 - 4 = 6 Oh Hell, I made the cabinet a little too narrow,

10-4 - a little jointing and then sanding off the filler, plus a little add on to fit = 5.971234098
Ah ha: PERFECT! (bow)

Mark,have you been peeping into my workshop?

I would have liked to kept that technique private.

[frank shic]

mark, your version of the formula comes closer to my woodworking REALITY. :D