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Terry Hatfield
01-31-2004, 9:04 PM
Howdy everyone,

Well finally I got a day in the shop. I finish sanded and stained the EC.

Problem is that my bookmatched plywood panels in the sides of the case look a bit tiger striped!!! :eek:

I have resanded the lighter boards and restained. That helped a little, but as you can see the dark boards are really the trouble. Any one got any ideas where I might go from here???

This pic makes it look worse than it does in person, but still disappointing after all this grain and color matching.

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Here's what they looked like before the stain. They were throughly sanded with 180 before the stain.

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Here is the same kind of deal on the doors. Even though these rails were cut from the same board, the uppers are fine and the lowers are light. :mad: The pic makes this look worse than it really is as well.

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OR.....am I stressing to much over the deal? :D

TIA,

Terry

Mark Singer
01-31-2004, 9:15 PM
Terry,
I am not an great finisher , but I was wondering if you strip it and use a sanding sealer first then a stain varnish it will be more even in coloration

Todd Burch
01-31-2004, 10:09 PM
Spraying a toner would even out the colors. If you've never used a toner before, get some and try it (requires a spray setup though). You'll never oil-base stain again (alone).

This built-in that I did over a year ago was birch plywood with birch face frames and some maple trim. No stain at all - just an oak toner, sprayed heavily, followed by a few other steps that aren't relevant to this post.

Try it - you'll like it!

Terry Hatfield
02-01-2004, 1:26 PM
OK..I went back with just the dark walnut stain(original is a 50/50 mix of cherry and dark walnut) and restained the offending parties. Looks much better to me now. Cheryl said it was fine the way it was so I'm gonna quit messing with it and get the first coat of poly on it. I'll post some pics when it's done.

Here are the doors after I restained. Much better. :D

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Terry

Bob Marino
02-01-2004, 1:45 PM
Spraying a toner would even out the colors. If you've never used a toner before, get some and try it (requires a spray setup though). You'll never oil-base stain again (alone).

This built-in that I did over a year ago was birch plywood with birch face frames and some maple trim. No stain at all - just an oak toner, sprayed heavily, followed by a few other steps that aren't relevant to this post.

Try it - you'll like it!
Todd,

Which toner did you use? And top coat?

Bob

David LaRue
02-01-2004, 2:07 PM
Todd,

Which toner did you use? And top coat?

Bob


Bob,

Your going to want that HVLP you were selling back! :eek:

BTW: Toners are available from Jet in spray cans.

David

Todd Burch
02-01-2004, 4:51 PM
Bob, I used ML Campbell's Microton (pronounced Micro-tone) Toner. I used Magnalac pre-catalyzed satin for the top coat (3 coats.) Also in the project, prior to the top coats, and after the toner, I used a water-white vinyl sealer, a van dyke brown glaze, another coat of vinyl sealer, then the top coat. (All ML Campbell products).

I've recently found a new finishing store in Baytown, Tx, called touchupdepot.com. I've ordered a few products from them already. They primarily cater to the refinishing industry, however, they carry a full line of finishing supplies too. Their prices seem to be fair and the staff helpful. No affiliation.

Fred Voorhees
02-01-2004, 6:51 PM
Todd - beautiful finish on the built in! :D

Todd Burch
02-01-2004, 8:00 PM
Thanks Fred!

Mike Evertsen
02-01-2004, 8:50 PM
I just read the new Wood mag. in the reading room and they have an article on toning,,,,