Glue Help

[Scott Felicetti]

any easy to use wood glue that can spend a good amount of time under water without failing? Weatherproof is not going to make it. Titebond III waterproof didn't do so well either. Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
Scott

[Bill Huber]

I am sure not glue expert but it sounds to me like you need to be using Epoxy for something like that.
It sure holds boats together.

[Curt Harms]

I would research boat building sites. In addition to Bill's suggestion of epoxy, check on resourcinol or urea formeldahyde glues. I believe those are waterproof as opposed to water resistant. You might also check Bob Smalser's posts, he's savvy when it comes to wood & water.

HTH

Curt

[Brian Weick]

Have you considered Gorilla glue- http://www.gorillaglue.com/home.htm , this may be the resolution to your problem. I used this glue to assemble my elaborate landscaping timbers and it is incredibly strong and resilient to water and moisture. :)
Hope this helps?
Brian

[Rob Blaustein]

Check out this thread (http://sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=21822).

[Cliff Rohrabacher]

Epoxy or Resourcinol
Both are waterproof.
Resourcinol is boil proof

[Howard Acheson]

What is it that you are trying to glue?

In general, any glue classified and meeting the US ANSI Type 1 specifications is suitable for long term underwater applications. It will also clearly say "waterproof". In general, two part, slow set epoxy works well if the temperature stays below about 150 degrees. The most waterproof is recsorcinol which is a two part adhesive used in the aircraft and marine applications.

[Scott Felicetti]

What is it that you are trying to glue?

In general, any glue classified and meeting the US ANSI Type 1 specifications is suitable for long term underwater applications. It will also clearly say "waterproof". In general, two part, slow set epoxy works well if the temperature stays below about 150 degrees. The most waterproof is recsorcinol which is a two part adhesive used in the aircraft and marine applications.

I'm edge gluing 1/8" poplar. I was softening up the wood in very hot water (with a little fabric softner) to get it to bend into a mold. It kept failing. I thought it was the water but it may be the heat. It looks like recsorcinol as stated above may do the trick. Is it highly toxic? Hard to work with? What brand name is it sold under? Thanks,
Scott

[Cliff Rohrabacher]

I'm edge gluing 1/8" poplar. I was softening up the wood in very hot water (with a little fabric softner) to get it to bend into a mold. It kept failing. I thought it was the water but it may be the heat. It looks like recsorcinol as stated above may do the trick. Is it highly toxic? Hard to work with? What brand name is it sold under? Thanks,
Scott

This is the best csource I know of:
http://www.chemical-supermarket.com/Resorcinol_Adhesives-c14.html?gclid=COWSusrTyI0CFQIcHgodwBvN6A

However smaller units are available under the DAP brand
Carried by Aubuchon and Ace Hardware. It's a pain top ship cause it's got formaldehyde in it and that is on the HOMELAND SECURITY watch list, and it's expensive to ship.

[Ian Welford]

Resourcinol is the way to go I think but it can leave a dark glue line. West System epoxies maybe a good alternative for heat resistance. Try their web site- sorry haven't got it to hand but google can get it- they're US based so should be easy for you.


Ian

[Eric Gustafson]

Are bending the wood after glueing? If so the problem might be that the wood bends but the glue does not.

[Scott Felicetti]

Are bending the wood after glueing? If so the problem might be that the wood bends but the glue does not.
Yes, I'm bending the wood after gluing. The glue line is so small. Only 3-4 thin lines on a 39" board to be bent into a 12" diameter circle. The glue can stay stiff. The wood has to bend. Thanks,
Scott

[Scott Felicetti]

Resourcinol is the way to go I think but it can leave a dark glue line. West System epoxies maybe a good alternative for heat resistance. Try their web site- sorry haven't got it to hand but google can get it- they're US based so should be easy for you.


Ian

Should I be afraid of this stuff Resoucinol? Sounds toxic and nasty, as most of this stuff does. I see it on the shelf at Ace. The DAP Weldwood version in a small tub. Looks like it does it all. It can take the heat and water.

[Howard Acheson]

I'm edge gluing 1/8" poplar. I was softening up the wood in very hot water (with a little fabric softner) to get it to bend into a mold. It kept failing. I thought it was the water but it may be the heat. It looks like recsorcinol as stated above may do the trick. Is it highly toxic? Hard to work with? What brand name is it sold under? Thanks,
Scott

Here is a source: http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=2060&familyName=Weldwood+Resorcinol+Glue.

However, this adhesive is quite brittle. I'm not sure how it would react if the glue line is going to be bent. Better test it before you make a major commitment to it.