Crosscut Sled Decision: Dubby

[Dave Avery]

Good morning all,

Just a quick note to thank everyone for the advice on my sliding table / crosscut sled thread. While at the Springfield, MA Woodwork show Friday afternoon, I spent close to an hour watching Jerry Cole, the inventor of the Dubby and owner of In-line Industries demonstate the sled. He made it look easy, as it should be when you've cut tens or hundreds of thousand of miters :)

To make a long story short, I spent the $160 on the Dubby and set it up yesterday. I absolutely love it. Only regret is not buying one sooner. It was easy to set up, cuts dead 90 with a convenient stop system (to which it will be easy to add a stick-on tape measure), and cuts PERFECT 45's in seconds. Anyone in the market for a sled should take a look at the dubby. Dave.

[CPeter James]

Did Jerry offer his after show seminar? That alone is worth the price of the sled. I bought one about 5 years ago and used to use it a lot. Less now, only because I put a sliding table on my saw and it does the same as the Dubby except that I do use the Dubby for smaller things. Did you get just the left sled? Did you get his book on picture frames and all the demensions? A good purchase and I am sure you will love it.

CPeter

[Dave Avery]

CPeter,

No on the sminar and book - I'll have to check on the book based on your recommendation.

I got the left side only - figured I could add a right side sled if I need more heft. I'm actually considering selling my Dewalt DW705 CMS with a nice Dewalt stand and Forrest chopmaster balde because I like the sled so much. Dave.

[Lee Schierer]

You may want to make an auxilary table for the right side of your blade. I've found that when using a Dubby, the small cutoffs can fall back against the blade and get pinched between the blade and the throat plate with a resultant lound noise and pices flying around. This it particularly true of carbide tipped blades.

I made a small table to the right side of the blade exactly the same height as the Dubby table so that cuttoffs stay put. When in place the aux table supports the cut off pieces and leaves no clearance between the right side of hte blade and the aux table for pieces to jam.

[Mark Singer]

Dave ,
doyou have a link for Dubby?
mark

[Aaron Heck]

I've always heard really good things about the Dubby.

Here's a link.
http://www.in-lineindustries.com/

I do have a question however. Did you happen to compare the Dubby to the Jointech Smartmiter? I'd be curious as to your observations.

Aaron

[David LaRue]

You may want to make an auxiliary table for the right side of your blade. I've found that when using a Dubby, the small cutoffs can fall back against the blade and get pinched between the blade and the throat plate with a resultant lound noise and pieces flying around. This it particularly true of carbide tipped blades.

I made a small table to the right side of the blade exactly the same height as the Dubby table so that cutoffs stay put. When in place the aux table supports the cut off pieces and leaves no clearance between the right side of the blade and the aux table for pieces to jam.


Lee, I have both the left and right Dubby, plus I made the carriage jig he uses in his "Boxes" video. I'll have to get around to taking a picture of it sometime.

Dave

[Mark Singer]

If you have the left and right...That is the Dubby Brothers...Your probably too young ... most of my dubbys did not make me more accurate! I couldn't drive or use machinery...That was the 60's

[Mike Evertsen]

what is better having the left side or right side?
I have a 52" fence set up on my saw and I have more room on the right side wouldn't I be better off with the right side for cutting longer boards?
can left side be used on the right side?
what makes the dubby better than the one delta makes?

[Thomas Walker]

A couple of questions:

- Why did you choose the dubbly instead of the Dewalt sliding table?

- Can you cut angles greater than 90% on the dubly?

Thanks & congratulations on your new purchase!

[Dave Avery]

A couple of questions:

- Why did you choose the dubbly instead of the Dewalt sliding table?

- Can you cut angles greater than 90% on the dubly?

Thanks & congratulations on your new purchase!


Hi Thomas,

I chose the dubby because I was impressed with its simplicity and ease of set-up. It also cuts PERFECT 45's very easily. The price was also $300 less than the Dewalt table, and it took about 10 minutes to set up. As far as angles, it does a perfect 90 degree crosscuts with a scale that goes all the way up to 50 degrees.... hope that answers your question. Dave.

[Ed Falis]

Dave,

Glad you got one. Will look forward to further reports. When I was upgrading the stock miter gauge on my saw, I was torn between the Dubby and the Osbourne EB-3. Wound up getting the latter, but I can still see the possibility of the Dubby in the future. That Jerry Cole is a good, down to earth guy, and I'd like to support his efforts.

- Ed

[David LaRue]

what is better having the left side or right side?
I have a 52" fence set up on my saw and I have more room on the right side wouldn't I be better off with the right side for cutting longer boards?
can left side be used on the right side?
what makes the dubby better than the one delta makes?


I stated with the left Dubby. After seeing the another demo by Jerry I said mmm that's a good idea.. a right one too! The primary use for the right for me so far is making boxes / frames with the pieces vertical. The right supports the opposite side cuts which are hard to make without either the jig or the right board.

[David LaRue]

Dave,

I also made bottom piece 1/2" tall the support the off cuts so they don't get thrown back at me. Also you will note the blade crown which helps prevent you from dropping wood on the blade. This is very possible when cutting melamine, since both the melamine and Dubby surfaces are so slick.

Dave

http://home.comcast.net/~mywoodshop/assets/images/Dubby-From-Op-Side-300.jpg

[Dave Avery]

If you have the left and right...That is the Dubby Brothers...Your probably too young ... most of my dubbys did not make me more accurate! I couldn't drive or use machinery...That was the 60's


Man..... I remember (sorta) a Doobie Brother's concert in the late '70's..... :)

[Dave Avery]

Dave,

I also made bottom piece 1/2" tall the support the off cuts so they don't get thrown back at me. Also you will note the blade crown which helps prevent you from dropping wood on the blade. This is very possible when cutting melamine, since both the melamine and Dubby surfaces are so slick.

Dave

http://home.comcast.net/~mywoodshop/assets/images/Dubby-From-Op-Side-300.jpg


Dave,

Very cool set-up. Thanks for posting the pic's. After I use mine for a while and get used to it, I'll probably do something similar. Dave.

[Noah Katz]

...cuts dead 90 with a convenient stop system (to which it will be easy to add a stick-on tape measure), and cuts PERFECT 45's in seconds.

Does it have stops for angles other than 90?

Also what about beveled cuts?

Either you permanently have unsupported stock for 90 deg cuts after making one, or if the blade tils away from the sled, unsupported stock on bevel cuts.
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Seems like sleds should have a replaceable edge piece for this.

[Richard Gonzalez]

You normally buy the one that the blade will tilt away from. My table saw is right tilt, so I have a left.

Richard

[Kyle Iwamoto]

This thread is like 6 years old. Maybe you should PM him.

[Pat Zabrocki]

Man..... I remember (sorta) a Doobie Brother's concert in the late '70's..... :)

I was at that concert, 3 or 4 times..... What happens at the concert stays at the concert....

[Dave MacArthur]

This thread is like 6 years old. Maybe you should PM him.
LOL! I didn't notice that either, but dang now I'm interested in this dubby! Maybe the oldest thread I've seen resurrected... but we might as well get something out of reading it hey?

Is there something better on the market now, or is a "right dubby" on a left tilting saw with a long right extension table the way to go?

[Dan Karachio]

I'm depressed. This is making my Incra 1000 SE with Miter Express look like, well, an okay buy, but not the best. Check that, I could have had a Double Dubby for the same price. The Incra won't really cut large panels, you have to constantly recalibrate it if you angle it (if not, the fence will go right into the blade), it will not hold small pieces as smartly as this looks it does, the extending fence also needs to be checked and calibrated for wide cuts, and it looks like the dubby also has some thought into preventing chip out with that extra wood block/extension thing near the blade. Also taking the Incra on and off the sled is a little bit of a hassle and it all doesn't store/hang well. It does have the piece that locks into the opposite side of the blade to prevent the cut off from dropping, but... So thanks a lot Dave, you ruined my night! :-)

[dirk martin]

I've got a Dewalt 744 portable table saw. Any idea if the Dubby will work on that? I saw the Dubby at a wood show, but I think I overheard someone say that that model Dewalt is too small for the Dubby....

[Don Morris]

I think a lot of thought went into the Dubby sleds. If I hadn't built a pretty good sled using Kelly Meher's design and very happy with it, I would have bought one when I saw the live demo. I did buy the Dubby Taper Jig which I saw at the same demo, and have used that for legs and such and been very happy with it. I must admit, the Dubby double does have some advantages over my sled but not enough to shell out that amount of $$$ as I have a separate 45/90 degree sled I made also ala Kelly Meher which I use for those angle miters. Hmmmm sounds like you can't have enough sleds.

[Andrew Kertesz]

I have a left tilt saw and bought the left side Dubby at Jerry's recommendation. When I asked him why not the right he told me if I was only buying one that you want to leave the fence on your saw, hence the left side. Made sense to me. They were sold out at the Detroit show last weekend hopefully I will get it around the first.

[Russell Sansom]

Can somebody tell me what the sled base is made of? And with a single runner, is there some insert/adjustment for wiggle?

[Gary Hodgin]

Russell,
I bought one several years ago but sold it along with my Ridgid saw I had set it up on. I bought a DW 746 with sliding table so I didn't need it. The body of the sled is made of melamine and there is (was) an adjustment for wiggle. I'm not sure if the dubby is still available. This thread is six years old. However, in-line industries still shows it on its website. I've seen something that looks very similar at Rocklers.
IMO, the dubby is extremely accurate and greatly improves performance over the standard miter gauge. I also purchased the PALs and contractors' saw package from in-line. Jerry Cole was great to deal with and with his stuff, along with a replacement 40" Biesenmeyer home fence system, improved the performance of my saw greatly. I wish now I hadn't sold it. I really like the DW 746 and had a opportunity to get a good deal on one. But, the performance package along with the dubby and biesenmeyer made my ridgid a better saw.
http://www.in-lineindustries.com/single_dubby.html

Edited: Here is something similar at Rocklers. I'm not sure of the status of in-line industries.
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=18063&filter=cross-cut%20sled

[John McCaskill]

It's still available and Jerry Cole's still doing the demo. I watched him for an hour today at the Houston WW show (held in Katy) and was sold on both him and the jig. Bought the left & right pair. He was demo'ing in the Peachtree booth and was a lot of fun to listen to.

John