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Dwain Lambrigger
07-12-2007, 6:01 PM
I am looking to buy a band saw. I want to get something that is really well rounded, that I won't grow out of too quickly. I am not doing re sawing now, but may in the future. I also want something that can run with a thin blade for scrolling. I have heard the Ricon 14" Deluxe is getting GREAT reviews, but I thought the $750.00 price tag was too high for me. I am seeing some 14" Delta's on sale at clist for about $300.00. Am I looking for trouble? I was hoping to spend about $500 - $600 dollars on this purchase. As I said before, I don't have a problem buying the old stuff, however, I am not confident on my tool reconditioning skills. Will a one hp motor do the job, or should I go with a 1.5? Are there features I am loosing with an older band saw? Help!

Your input is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

James Ross
07-12-2007, 6:28 PM
I am a woodworking newbie so you may not value my opinion.

I recently purchased several new machines including a Craftsman Professional 14 in Band Saw. It is obviously made by Ricon with some minor differences. While I have not yet had an opportunity to use it a great deal, it has been a very satisfactory purchase. I looked at the operating manual at the store prior to purchase and compared it to the Ricon manaual available for download from Ricon's web site. the Craftsman model has a longer non standard blade size but additional blades are available from Timber Wolf.

If you choose this saw, I recommend letting Sears load it in your pickup to save delivery charge. Upon arriving home, open the box while still in the truck and remove the parts for the base. After assembling the base, the saw can be slid off the tail gate onto the base.

There are many positive reviews online at the Sears site for this saw and is currently priced at $469.00 thru July 14.

Just my opinion

James Ross

dan thomas
07-12-2007, 7:17 PM
I'm quite new here as well. Greetings all. I just returned from a trip to my local Woodcraft store (200 miles away). I looked at the 14" Ricon. It is now on sale for 10% off, making it $675. Sale ends July 28th. I did not buy one I was somewhat disappointed in the table top finish. I'm eye-balling a "like new" 16" inch Jet for close to the same price and includes extras. It's 200 miles in the oppsite direction.

Randy Klein
07-12-2007, 8:14 PM
When I was considering the same thing, if you took the Jet 14", added a riser, and an aftermarket tension release lever, it became more expensive than the Rikon, yet still had less resaw, guide block instead of bearings, and smaller table.

So I got the Rikon and have been very happy with it.

Wilbur Pan
07-12-2007, 8:57 PM
I don't have a problem buying the old stuff, however, I am not confident on my tool reconditioning skills.
For what it's worth, I bought a used Walker Turner 16" bandsaw. To get it up and running, I needed to:

figure out how to disassemble the lower axle
reposition the lower wheel to align it with the upper wheel
clean and repack the bearings
buy new blades
put new pulleys on the wheel and motor to get the blade running at the manufacturer's recommended speed
shim the table to bring it fully into square
general cleaning of old dust and grease

I was able to do this even though my day job is being a pediatrician, and I had no mechanical experience or any prior experience rehabbing old machines.

And, I'd do it all over again if I had to. I just love my bandsaw. They don't make them like they used to.

A bandsaw is pretty simple in terms of parts and operation. If you are looking at an old Delta 14", I'd go for it. There are plenty of parts available for the old Deltas, if you need them.

As far as 1 vs. 1 1/2 hp motors go, there are so many other factors that go into how well a bandsaw performs besides horsepower that this issue is almost meaningless. My bandsaw has a 1/2 hp motor, and is doing fine for me so far.

John Wesley Williams
07-13-2007, 9:58 AM
Also a newbie so take it for what it's worth. I went out and bought a ridgid band saw an hour from here. I brought it home set it up and was completely disappointed. So an hour drive back yesterday to return it. Today I pick up my new Rikon 14" deluxe. With the fuel and my time I would have been better off to buy the Rikon in the first place.

Craig D Peltier
07-13-2007, 10:20 AM
ID try to get bigger than a 1hp to start for resawing.
Grizzly might be able to help you with your needs. There are good saws a 14" can take a 1/8 to 3/4 blade on the extreme version for 595.00 an its 1.5hp.
I also like the Rikon,tabletop didnt bother me.Alot of good reviews on that saw.

Bryan Rygiel
07-13-2007, 12:48 PM
There are many positive reviews online at the Sears site for this saw and is currently priced at $469.00 thru July 14.


We just got a flyer in the mail for Sears - if you use your Sears premiere charge next weekend, you get 10% off on everything storewide (except electronics) The catch is you need the flyer for the coupon.

Woodcraft is also having a 10% sale coming up, July 28th. Got a flyer with a scratch off for that one, too.

glenn bradley
07-13-2007, 12:57 PM
If you're OK upgrading saws when you move into re-sawing, the Sears is a close cousin to the Rikon without the height. Not sure about the HP. From the owners who have posted here you will want to run the Rikon at 220v so that may influence you if you do not already have service.

I have a 110v 'almost' 1HP and it is inadequate for anything very thick or involving a lot of curves. I can do it; just VERY slowly.

Randy Klein
07-13-2007, 1:21 PM
If you're OK upgrading saws when you move into re-sawing, the Sears is a close cousin to the Rikon without the height. Not sure about the HP. From the owners who have posted here you will want to run the Rikon at 220v so that may influence you if you do not already have service.

I have a 110v 'almost' 1HP and it is inadequate for anything very thick or involving a lot of curves. I can do it; just VERY slowly.

I have my Rikon on 110v 20 Amp dedicated circuit with no problems. It's the same circuit I run all my tools on (not at the same time of course). My DC is another dedicated circuit of the same volt and current.

Eddie Darby
07-13-2007, 9:51 PM
This link is for 14" steel frame bandsaws.

http://www.popularwoodworking.com/upload/contents/335/NOV06PW_40-44_BAND%20SAWS.pdf

Since a bandsaw is a very important tool in any shop, i would make sure that I got a good one. If you decide to upgrade later on, the top tools are easier to unload.

I have a Delta 14" saw with all the upgrades, and it adds up $$$ fast.

Ken Massingale
07-14-2007, 7:37 AM
When I was considering the same thing, if you took the Jet 14", added a riser, and an aftermarket tension release lever, it became more expensive than the Rikon, yet still had less resaw, guide block instead of bearings, and smaller table.

So I got the Rikon and have been very happy with it.
Another very happy Rikon 10-325 owner here.

Raymond Fries
07-27-2007, 9:20 PM
I bought a 14" Shop Fox for about $570 with tax. It has served me well so far. It included the bearing guides for the blade, A fence, and cabinet under neast. 1 hp motor. You can run from 1/8" to 3/4" blades.


Happy Shopping ang good luck...

Raymond Fries
07-27-2007, 9:22 PM
- Sorry for the typos...

Eddie Darby
07-28-2007, 8:37 AM
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Hmmm I wonder what the Rikon minus 10% comes to? :D

Rich Rice
07-28-2007, 10:45 AM
Today is Woodcraft 10% sale, and free shipping tossed in to boot.*


Hmmm I wonder what the Rikon minus 10% comes to? :D


I just got back with mine.

Rikon 14" Deluxe BS = $674.99
All Pro 1/4" X 6R X 111" = $17.09
PS 3/4" X 3TPI X 111" = $31.49

Tax = $63.31

Not bad... $786.88 Out the door with two blades. Saved about $80 :)

Morton Heller
07-28-2007, 11:08 AM
I got a 14" Jet with an open stand (3/4 HP). I wanted a lighter saw so that I could get it home myself. I looked at a local Delta at Lowes, but the box looked like someone went after it with a sledge hammer. After problems with a returned, damaged Delta already, I decided to go with a Jet.

The Jet quality is good. I'd recommend getting the biggest saw that your back and electrical supply can handle. My impression of the Jet is that the quality control is very good. I can recommend them, but wish that I had driven 90 miles to get a closed stand, bigger model Jet at Woodcraft.

glenn bradley
07-28-2007, 1:09 PM
I am looking to buy a band saw. I want to get something that is really well rounded, that I won't grow out of too quickly. I am not doing re sawing now, but may in the future. I also want something that can run with a thin blade for scrolling. I have heard the Ricon 14" Deluxe is getting GREAT reviews, but I thought the $750.00 price tag was too high for me. I am seeing some 14" Delta's on sale at clist for about $300.00. Am I looking for trouble? I was hoping to spend about $500 - $600 dollars on this purchase. As I said before, I don't have a problem buying the old stuff, however, I am not confident on my tool reconditioning skills. Will a one hp motor do the job, or should I go with a 1.5? Are there features I am loosing with an older band saw? Help!

Your input is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

I sound like a broken record but, I guess its because there have been so many 14" BS threads lately. The Rikon 10-325 is what I'm after unless someone developes something better before I get there. JMHO after lots of research targeting what I plan to use a BS for. YMMV.

Rich Rice
07-28-2007, 2:16 PM
Well, I'm very impressed with the Rikon 10-325 so far. The PS blade (3/4" X 3TPI) made mincemeat out of a 4" hemlock fir scrap. It was an easy setup, no hesitation, effortless resaw job. I had a Jet 14" deluxe earlier in the week, and returned it after two days. What a difference. The Rikon is quickly becoming my favorite piece of equipment. I'll keep practicing on scrap for a while before I put pricey wood through it, but if this is an indication of things to come, WOW!!! :D:D:D