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Bob Marino
01-16-2004, 7:32 PM
In my garage/shop, all the tools must be on mobile bases. Am I crazy to spend $225.00+ on a HTC heavy duty dedicated base for my 500lb. bandsaw, or is constructing my own the better way to go?

Bob

Tony Sade
01-16-2004, 7:40 PM
about $70 and good for up to 600 lbs. (they claim).

Chris Padilla
01-16-2004, 7:43 PM
Yes, you are, Bob! :)

Try the Shop Fox mobile bases available from Grizzly. I have the 600 lb. rated one ($70) under my G1023 TS.

To be safe, you might spring for the 1200 lb one ($90).

One thing I will tell you, the 2 knobs/screws used to lock down the base are a POS. That is my only gripe about the base: mine are difficult to turn and mostly stripped, I think. If you go with the Shop Fox, you might carefully inspect these when you get them...perhaps run a fresh tap through them to ensure good threads. Thank goodness that I rarely need to use mine...the weight of the TS pretty much keeps it in place. Other than that, this is a solid, and good quality mobile base.

http://www.grizzly.com/catalog/2004/196.cfm?

Mike Evertsen
01-16-2004, 9:44 PM
think about the 500 lb bandsaw on a on a base not made to hold that much wieght you are moving it around the shop then the base flexes being top heavy that bandsaw tips what damage is going to be done when it comes down?????

Bob Marino
01-16-2004, 11:07 PM
I guess I should have mentioned that I bought a Vega base; the one with the lever/handle in front; similar to the MiniMax mobility kit. Just didn't work; way hard to move in a straight line, let alone manuever easily...and just didn't feel secure, at least not for a top heavy tool like a bs.

Bob

John Miliunas
01-16-2004, 11:39 PM
Hey, in case the rest of you guys missed it, our buddy Bob here has slipped in (rather slyly, I might add!) a major, STEALTH new tool GLOAT! :D Bob, why don't you go ahead and share a few more details of that there BS and maybe they'll better understand exactly why you NEED something really heavy-duty! All I can say is, congrats on a real beauty and have fun with it! :cool:

Bob Marino
01-16-2004, 11:57 PM
A major gloat or rather pregloat, since the bandsaw (Agazanni 20") is sitting in my unheated :( garage/shop and need to put in another 220 outlet, soooooooooooooo, hopefully will be ready to cut next week.

But I have to say that I am impressed with the condition of the saw upon arrival. It was boxed and packed perfectly, not a scratch to be found and totally set up (no cosmoline). It was also tested before shipping. Eagle Tools did a fine job. Fit and finish look nice,gears work smoothly, but at this level of saw it should be expected.

And a thanks goes out to Mark Singer for advice and recommendations.

More info as I get it running.

Bob

Glenn Kiso
01-17-2004, 1:53 AM
Bob,

I have the same band saw and same base I got from Jesse. The vega base is stable while not being moved around, however the Vega with the lifting bar isn't a very good mobile base to manuever with. The metal tongue on my lifting bar has nearly bent the other direction. I hammered back but it keeps bending back, sooner or later it's gonna snap.

I'd change bases but I don't move the bandsaw much. I bought a pallet jack to move my large machines around instead of mobility bases. Sooner or later I may just end up putting the thing up on a homemade pallet and use the pallet jack.

Bob Marino
01-17-2004, 7:24 AM
Glen,


Yes, I think the Vega is not the way to go for a bs that must be moved everyday and I also would see problems doen the road with that little hook bending over time. Wish I would have known that before buying the Vega.

BTW, how do you like the Agazanni?

Bob

Mark Singer
01-17-2004, 8:13 AM
Bob,
Sorry about the Vega base problem. I only have one mobile base on my General drum sander(from Jesse also). The rest of my machinery doesn't need to move. The base I have is the Vega and I haven't had any problem with it.I am sure Jesse will take the base back. My drum sander is lower to the ground and longer...but I move it quite well with the Vega and its tow bar.
I know you will love the saw. I stood a nickle on my on edge the other day while it was running just to check the vibration!
I can't really give you advice on the mobile base...because I only have the Vega.

Kent Cori
01-17-2004, 9:28 AM
Another vote for the Shop Fox 600# version. I have three (TS, BS and jointer) and am very satisfied.

Chris, I have not experienced any problems with the hold down screws and knobs on any of the bases. All work smoothly although I seldom use them for the same reason you cited. It sounds like you may have a bad one.

Jim Becker
01-17-2004, 9:33 AM
I'm partial to the welded bases, but something you could consider is using the Delta modular base with tubular steel. It would be inexpensive and will certainly support the weight of your machine if you use the metal instead of the wood. I also know a fellow out on the left coast that started out with such a kit and welded up his own bases...

Bob Marino
01-17-2004, 9:38 AM
How manueverable is that SF base, is it difficult making turns? Are 4 wheel designs an advantage over 3 wheel designs in this area?


Bob

Bill Esposito
01-17-2004, 12:16 PM
How manueverable is that SF base, is it difficult making turns? Are 4 wheel designs an advantage over 3 wheel designs in this area?
BobBob,
Forget all this mobile base stuff. Just use your tools to make a 60x60 addition to the garage :)

Paul Kunkel
01-17-2004, 11:31 PM
think about the 500 lb bandsaw on a on a base not made to hold that much wieght you are moving it around the shop then the base flexes being top heavy that bandsaw tips what damage is going to be done when it comes down?????
Forget it!. I've got my 700# Griz 20" bandsaw on a Shopfox for a couple of years now. It moves, is stable, locks tight when I want it to and was the right price. If I can wear it out in a few more years I'm still ahead of the game. :D
2 forums at least in favor or the Shop fox. Buy it!

Peter Kuhlman
01-19-2004, 3:22 PM
Hey Bob,
I used the Jet 1200# industrial mobile base under my cabinet saw. It has worked great for that heavy item. I am using it on a plywood floor and the wheels are wide enough to carry the weight. I have the 600# rated Jet base also but it flexed and the wheels were narrower and caused problems with the plywood floor and just was not up to the load so it is under my router table now. The Jet is super simple to assemble and has a minimum dimension of ~23" square but you can easily cut the rails if you need shorter. I paid ~ $79 from Amazon.
Pete

Bob Marino
01-19-2004, 4:14 PM
Well apparently there are plenty of good bases out there. I called HTC and there dedicated base was $288.00 :eek: :eek: :eek: Eagle Tools would have sold it to me with some discount, but was still over the $250.00 mark. Way, way out of my price range.
I was also considering the nondedicated bases and thought that if I ever switched things around, that base may not fit the next tool. And I considered making my own with some of those red polyurethane HD casters from Woodcraft, and was ready to order, but realized that with the 2 sheets of ply I would use, would raise the bandsaw about 6"'s; no good.
As it turns out, Woodcraft has a sale on the Super HD Shopfox adjustable base (1200 lb. capacity) for $76.00. With all the good feedback on this base, I decided to go for it.Thanks all for the great advice.

Bob

nic obie
01-20-2004, 12:55 PM
I made the mistake of buying the 1200# rated Jet base for my 600# euro style sliding table saw. With all 4 of the wheels locked I can still push it around. The worst thing is with moderate pressue on the slider the base bends. I've got to use wedges on all four corners to made it marginal. Even then the casters flex. $100 down the tubes.

Ian Barley
01-21-2004, 3:16 AM
I am in the process of putting most of my stuff on pallets (custom made to fit the piece) which I can then move using a pallet truck.

The cost of the truck can be a problem but if you compare it to the cost of buying a few mobile bases it soon pays for itself.

The main advantage is that the machine is completely stable when its not being moved. There are also no load capacity issues.

You also have a pallet truck which can be very useful for other things in the shop.

Hal Flynt
01-21-2004, 5:08 PM
I have a "Heavy Duty Shop Fox 600#" unde a PM 66 and I think it's pushing it. I may get the heavier one and extension for the table and 54 " rails. I think the PM weighs in right at 600# when fully assembled and I have an out feed table too.

I am also looking at the PM welded one (one big retangle with full support to the extension legs.) with the idea of building a cabinet on those rails to keep all the goodies in with doors on each side.

I have 2 shop foxes and I do like them.