is this a gloat

[Ron Petley]

This plane is a #5 stanley baley for sale at the local junk store for $30.00, the owner said I could return it if I was not happy with it. So I did not clean it just brought it home and took some photos.
I do not have closeup on my camera, but here are some photos. The plane looks well cared for and does not have big scratches on it, the mouth is untouched.
The biggest flaw is a chunk out of the tote, I do not know what type of wood it is but it is not the dark stained wood I normally see. I did not take a good photo of the wood. I guess it could be repaired if I can march the wood.
Other than that it is in good shape, any comments its value.
Cheers Ron.
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[Barry Vabeach]

Ron, I am no expert on value but it looks nice to me - have you sharpened the iron and tried it yet? BTW, the crack on the handle probably wouldn't bother me because it doesn't look like it would impact the use of the plane. Barry

[Ron Petley]

Barry:
Yes the chip is not felt when I grasp the tote. It looked in good shape and I really wanted to try one with the corigated sole. The blade is in good shape, no big chips, a little rounded towards the edges, but some of mine look like that anyways. Good point I guess a few swipes across a board would tell a lot. I wanted it for use so if it works well is really all I wanted.
Cheers Ron.

[Bart Leetch]

Ron I think you did just fine & the handle isn't hard to fix if you can find a similar wood just cut a nice flat top on it & glue a piece on & shape it with a fine rasp I've even used a double cut file & then sand paper & finish. It may not bother your hand grip but it would sure look a lot better with a top on the handle. Besides that it a challange so give it a try. You'll find its easy to do & then if you want to you can make youe own handles.

Here is a Millerfalls #22 that I made a cherry Tote & Knob for. This plane is similar to a Stanley #7 just a little wider.

[Rob Luter]

Not bad! Most of the Baileys I've picked up (#3, #4, #5, #5C, #7) have been in that range.

It's amazing how much the prices on these can vary. Yesterday the wife and I were hitting garage sales and antique shops. I scored a #5C like the one you show at a barn sale for $4.00, but the tote was broken in three pieces. This is the lowest I've paid for a good bench plane. Cleaned up it looks like new and a replacement tote is on order. Later in the day I saw a #5 with a smooth bottom of the same approximate vintage at a "junktique" store. It was marked $95.00. It was also marked "Vintage". The kicker was that it had been broken in clean in half at the mouth. Pieces of steel had been riveted to the castings on each side to hold it together. The proprietor of the store was clueless.

PS: Bart - Nice job on the knob and tote.

[Mike Cutler]

Yep. I'd pay that much for it. A collector might have a different point of view, but for me, I'd buy it to use it.

You cannot buy a new one for that price, and that one appears to be in great shape. Sharpen the iron, tune it up and let it rip.

Nice gloat.

[Ron Petley]

Thanks for the help, yes it would be fun to fix the chip and it would look whole again. I will post a photo of it. So I will keep it and give it a few swipes over a board today.
I am not finding that planes are that sought after in this town, which is fine by me. This is my second plane purchase, I was excited to see the bottom, which is why I went for this plane, but I though I would post it here to get some feedback before I kept it. The store owner said it was older than the typical planes he sells. Cheers Ron.

[Glenn Madsen]

You're supposed to have to look a little bit. Find something at the garage sale, or swap with your great uncle's widow, or something like that. Tools have a way of accumulating, but that's part of the hobby, isn't it?

[Charles Jackson III]

Nice gloat.

[Rick Young WY]

Good gloat.
I have several that I have been using for the past few years that dont look that good.

Rick

[Ron Petley]

I have been hunting around for months, I guess I am new to this and not very good at it, so far. I think the people around here keep their planes, this one came to the shop via a estate sale. I guess it is a matter of figuring out how to cut out the middle man next.
I did a few curls and it works like a treat. The blade has been cared for, sharpened by hand very carefully. The frog(I think that is the name, see photo) has already been filed but was placed too far back and the blade was not sitting flat. There is a little slot in the middle bottom of the frog and the plane body piece was sticking through and was touching the blade.
A little sharpening and a tote repair and it should be good to go.
Thanks for the input.
I do not have close up on my camera so this was as close as I could get.
Cheers Ron.
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[Richard Niemiec]

It looks to me like a type 13 (1925-28) #5C smack in the middle of the "sweetheart years", and if there is no rust pitting and no cracks in the metal IMHO its worth at least $30, likely $10-15 more as is. Looks like the blade was replaced as it has no "sweetheart" logo, but the lever cap, frog and body (no raised heel and toe and no raised ring around the knob) is correct for the type. Its hard to tell from the photos, but there should be one patent date cast into the body below the frog adjustment screw, if there are more than one patent dates, say two or three, it could be a type 9 or 12, making it a bit earlier, but I think its a type 13. Knob and tote are rosewood. It qualifies as a gloat in my book. Rich

[Ron Petley]

Richard;
the patent date is printed on the body: APR-19-10.
Cheers Ron.

[Richard Niemiec]

Yup, type 13 it is. Consider it gloatable. As a user, I wouldn't worry too much about the crack in the tote so long as it does not interfere with your grip. Wait until you come across another damaged one and switch totes, or make one as suggested, it can be fun. Use it in good health.

Rich

[Ron Petley]

Richard; Thanks for the info, yes it will be a great addition to my 3 plane collection, in fact it will be the flagship. I will keep my eye out for a piece of wood that matches for a repair, but in the meantime I will use it no problem. Cheers Ron.