Was I being an @@@

[Bob Hallowell]

I was on the auction site looking at lathes and someone has listed a "full lathe shop" What it is, is the real cheap lathe that harbor freight sales that doesn't even have a MT on the headstock to put a center in. Next some 30 dollar HF lathe chisels, and finally he was adding to sets of what look like HF carving chisels. He did build a stand that was included. But whatt cheesed me off was the line he added about having a line that read $1500 hundred Retail. I think maybe $250. There are already bids on it. But I emailed him and told him he was decieving people with the $1500 part and he shuold change it. Someone might think they are getting a good lathe and end up with that.

He Emailed me back and basicaly said I was an a@@ and stay out of his buiness.

Was I?

[Cory Martin]

Absolutly not. I think you've done your good deed for the day. The sad part is that those who are bidding probably wont know any better untill it to late.

[Bill Wyko]

You did just fine. I hate crooks. I've always tried to give people more than they expect. That way you'll never make enemies. That guy's going to pay the price someday.

[David Epperson]

Bob, sounds like someone needs to be. I guess you could have posted a comment on the bid site that contained links to all the retail prices of what he had listed. THAT would have cheesed him off even more. Cheaters HATE to get caught at it.

[Bernie Weishapl]

No Way. Good deal Bob. I e-mailed him and asked him about it also. He claims the lathe is worth at least a $1000. I told him it was worth probably $100 as it sold for about $140 new. He also told me I was a A@@hole and to shut my mouth. I e-mailed him back and said look who is calling the kettle black. I hate guys like that. Someone is going to get took. :mad::mad::mad:

[Bruce Shiverdecker]

Bob, you can post A NEGATIVE COMMENT at the site.

Bruce

[Bill Wyko]

Isn't there somewhere in E-Bay you can report fraud?

[Nancy Laird]

Isn't there somewhere in E-Bay you can report fraud?

And if there is, you SHOULD report it. This guy is trying to rip someone off for big bucks in exchange for trash!!

Nancy

[Bob Hallowell]

I delete the email responses,
Bob

[Stephen Hibbs]

I just tried to report a fraudulent listing, but it didn't work, I don't think. FWIW the tool set looks better than HF, but that doesn't make up the $1,000+ discrepancy! I'm hesitant to post it as a comment on the page since you never know if they'll go after you...

It may be a buyer beware world, but the guy lied when he said it cost that much.

[Keith Burns]

Bob, good for you !! That same lathe except with a 14" swing can be had there for $55.00 using buy it now. There is another guy that sells Windsor Design tools there for a high price. They are the same tools sold by PSI for like $40.00. Unfortunately it is a "Buyer Beware World". I don't know what can be done to stop this type of crap!

[Gary Herrmann]

Nope Bob, from what I can see, the seller is the @@@. I realize its a buyer beware world, but unless I'm missing something, his auction is just dishonest.

[Gary Max]

Just had to do it-----I am only a couple hours south of this jerk.
Just sent him a email and asked if I could inspect his $1500.00 lathe.
I made a big point of the make sure it's $1500.00 before I drive up and look at it.
I also told him that it better not be junk or I was going to be more than unhappy with gas prices over $3.00 per.
Lets see what he says.

[chris del]

I agree with all of you that this guy is a big Richard, but who would be stupid enough to fall for it? This is the information age is it not?
I almost feel like who ever buys it, deserves it. If noting else, they will be learning a lesson. Research before you buy!
I have been to many live auctions and witness people paying more than retail for something that is 10 years old and in disrepair.

[Mark Rios]

I'm not a lathe type of guy so I don't know what to search for to get to the page but...........

If you click on the "Ask the seller a question" button you will be taken to a page where you can ask the selller your question (go figure :rolleyes: ). Anyway, on that page there will be a check box asking you if you want the question and response to be listed on the auction page.

This would allow you to "ask" a question, and have it show up on the page, revealing the true value of the lathe...............IIRC, the question will show up even before he answers (and even if he doesn't).


just a thought...................

[Matt Meiser]

Mark, the seller has the option of displaying the question and response.

[Mark Rios]

Mark, the seller has the option of displaying the question and response.

Okay Matt, thanks. Sorry about that then. Must be my first day.............:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Jim Shaver, Oakville Ont]

I do not think it's appropriate to be posting other people's emails ....

Wether he is right or wrong for selling his tools at that price is really his business in my mind

:)

[Cory Martin]

It looks like he revised the description again.:)

[Ken Milhinch]

If I see blatant dishonesty in pricing on eBay, I have sometimes emailed the bidder to alert them. They can then withdraw their bid if they wish.
Yeah, I know, the lawyers would love it, but we don't sue each other for everything here in the southern isles.:)

[Dick Strauss]

Bob,
Good for you! I'd rather have people assume the worst and get something better if I sell it. I think the poster knew he was doing something dishonest. Once he got a few notes, he decided to CHA (cover his @#$....) and post the little disclaimer at the end of his listing. I'm glad others contacted him to get him to make the changes.

I can't tell you how often I see people list wood as "burl" that only has one little curl in it with no decent wavy grain. People think that if a tree has a bump, it must be a burl (never mind that it was a healed over broken/cut branch). I mentioned the same thing to one seller about his "burl" and was told to mind my own business and not bid if I felt it the listing wasn't accurate. I was just trying to protect others like you.

Some folks don't have the knowledge or researching skills but that doesn't mean they should be taken advantage of in business. Just remember the old saying "treat others as you would have them treat you!"

My soapbox is officially broken now...

Dick

[David Epperson]

I can't tell you how often I see people list wood as "burl" that only has one little curl in it with no decent wavy grain. People think that if a tree has a bump, it must be a burl (never mind that it was a healed over broken/cut branch).

Some folks don't have the knowledge or researching skills but that doesn't mean they should be taken advantage of in business.

Dick
For years, until I found THIS site, I thought "Burl" was only found in the root ball of the tree. Education is a good thing.

And the only thing evil needs to prevail is for good people to do nothing.

[Craig Zettle]

So true, David.

FYI, the seller, after updating his listing to include a rant that clearly showed that we were getting to him, ended the bidding early at $86.98.

[Mark Cothren]

He Emailed me back and basicaly said I was an a@@ and stay out of his buiness.


His name wasn't/isn't "Chuck", is it? I had a bad experience recently with a seller on there.

[Jim Underwood]

This seller had 100% satisfaction rating. Guess he didn't want to ruin it.

$1500 sounded a bit over the top even if you figure the cabinet was worth $500...

At most all I could come up with was about $800 worth of stuff new, and that was stretching it. (I've owned one of these lathes, and while it got me started, it's not much of a lathe even when it's new. I guess it beats turning with a belt and two nails on sticks.)

As a side note, I was hassled about some software and key I was trying to sell once. I subtracted out the cost of support and converting the license over, plus a discount, and gave the number of the software company so persons could verify. And then I posted for folks to make and offer. I STILL got hammered over it. :mad: Good Lord, you'd think I was being dishonest or something. It's one thing to overvalue something and mislead folks about it. It's quite another to disclose the retail value accurately, and discount something... So if you're going to hammer someone over the value of something, be darn sure you're right...