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Brian Hale
05-05-2007, 12:05 AM
Hey all!

As you folks often say, it's a slippery slope! My first "real" plane was a newer model Stanley 60 1/2 I got from Lee Valley about a year and a half ago. The next was only a few months later, the Veritas BUJ. Then i started saving my pennies for a BU Jack but low and behold eBay got into my blood. Today i'm the proud owner of 40 various planes and shaves and a few more are in the mail to me right now! I know, it's time to build them a home but ......

Shown (L to R) are a Millers Falls #8 Never used/never sharpened
Sweet Heart 78 mint
#40 scrub
3 #3's one mint/unused
Mint Sargent VBM #3 sized
4 #4's
Sargent #3411 Transtional
2 4 1/2's
Veritas BUS
5 1/4
3 #5's
Sargent 414
Miller falls #14 Mint/unused
Veritas BUJ
comming 'round R to L
#48
Veritas medium shoulder plane
Spokeshaves... 2- #151's #64 #52 #51
Veritas scraper
Veritas flush plane
9 1/2
60 1/2
some various unamed block planes
#99 and #98
and on the shelf is a #5 1/2C and a #6C
Not shown is a #12 scraper (out to get the sole flattened)

All but a coup[le od these are tuned and in good working order with 3 having aftermarket blades and chipbreakers.

So, care to show me your collection!?!?! ;)

Brian :)



Anyway, here's the required pic

Fred Gross
05-05-2007, 12:16 AM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y213/usmcbombboy/Woodworking/Planes.jpg

LN 8C
LN 5 1/2C
LN 4 1/2C HA
LN 62
LN 40 1/2
LN 112
LN 85
LN 9 Mitre
LN 073
LN 97 1/2
LN 60 1/2R
LN 9 1/2
LN 60 1/2
LN 140R N
Stanley 71P Router (US)
Stanley 151 (SW)

On order:
LN 4C Bronze
LN Lg Router
LN Side Rabbet Planes

Ian Smith
05-05-2007, 12:34 AM
I do have a grouping of hand planes, but it's not a collection. http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g190/mirboo/Smilies/nono.gif

Here they are.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g190/mirboo/My%20Planes/th_PS_IMG_3077.jpg (http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g190/mirboo/My%20Planes/PS_IMG_3077.jpg)
Figure 1 – Bench Planes.

My bench planes from left to right are a No. 8 Jointer Plane, a No. 4-1/2 Smoothing Plane, a No. 4 Smoothing Plane and a No. 5-1/2 Jack Plane. I also have a modern (a.k.a. crappy) English made Stanley Bailey No. 4 that I forgot to include in the picture. The Stanley was my first plane and I don't use it much any more. It is reserved for planing stuff that I don't want to put my good planes anywhere near.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g190/mirboo/My%20Planes/th_PS_IMG_3080.jpg (http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g190/mirboo/My%20Planes/PS_IMG_3080.jpg)
Figure 2 – Block Planes.

The block planes from left to right are a No. 62 Low Angle Jack Plane, a No. 9-1/2 Standard Angle Adjustable Mouth Block Plane, a No. 60-1/2 Low Angle Adjustable Mouth Block Plane, a No.140L Skew Rabbet Block Plane (Left) and a No. 140 Skew Rabbet Block Plane (Right). The 9-1/2 block plane is the latest addition. I won it by taking part in an online survey being conducted by Australian Wood Review magazine.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g190/mirboo/My%20Planes/th_PS_IMG_3086.jpg (http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g190/mirboo/My%20Planes/PS_IMG_3086.jpg)
Figure 3 – Other Planes.

My other planes are a No. 043 Small Plough Plane, a No. 271 Small Router Plane and a No. 042 Medium Shoulder Plane.

Hank Knight
05-05-2007, 5:59 AM
Brian,

The first part of that slope is real steep, ain't it?

Nice tools.

Hank

Brian Hale
05-05-2007, 9:26 AM
Fred, i like how you've organized/store your planes, gives me an idea or two. ;)

You've got a good selection there Ian. All those LN's are making me envious

Yep, the first part of that slope sure is slick! I hope is level's off a bit before i go the LN route :eek: I must admit these Stanley / Miller Falls / Sargent perform quite well but the Bedrock line of which i have none is sure attractive but $$$

Keep 'm coming guys!

Brian :)

Brian Kent
05-05-2007, 1:43 PM
Brian,

Thanks for posting the list and the photo. Recently I read your post sayin you have 40 planes after about a year on the slippin' slide and I was going to ask you to tell us what you have. Thanks!

I am also into this one year. I'll post when I get near a camera, but I won't need as big a camera as you used.

Other Brian

Martin Shupe
05-05-2007, 2:23 PM
Fred, I notice several of your planes are C's. I have a couple LN planes, but no C's. My question is, do you think the corrogated bottom makes a big difference in performance? I guess you do, or you wouldn't have paid extra for it.

I have not seen any LN's that were corrogated, just wondering why, and why you chose to have it done.

Thanks!

Nice collection, by the way.

Terry Bigelow
05-05-2007, 3:22 PM
Brian, your story sounds a lot like mine. I started with that same 60 1/2 (Lowe's) and had a few of my grandfather's planes, then...eBay!! Slippery slope INDEED!!! Now I'm not sure how many I have and frankly I'm not sure I want to know. Much like you too, I need to build a home for my planes. Problem is, I keep adding more!!! Will it ever stop? Any way here's some pics.
Bedrocks:603,604,604 1/2,605,606,607.
some others:
79
98 & 99
71
112 & 12
5 1/2
5 1/4
92 & 93
80
Leonard Bailey plane (pre Stanley?) see pic
140
110
120
118
9 1/2

Ryan Cathey
05-05-2007, 5:33 PM
Where did you find that pre-Stanley Bailey?

Terry Bigelow
05-05-2007, 8:00 PM
My wife and I took over the family cabinet business 2+ years ago(officially in Jan. though). When I started there (it's my wife's family) I was suprised to find a few hand planes at the shop that no one used and that little beauty was mixed in with some crappy '50s stanley handymans. Quite a find!

Ryan Cathey
05-05-2007, 8:40 PM
Dang...some people have all the luck! Nice score!

Fred Gross
05-05-2007, 8:42 PM
Martin,
Lie-Nielsen sells the corrugated versions on their website. There's always been a debate on whether it is an improvement to the standard bench plane or just a good marketing ploy (designed to work on resinous woods) by Stanley. There may be a little less friction because of the smaller surface area, but that is more of a "feel" than scientific documentation. Do they perform better than a smooth sole? Probably not.

So why plunk down the extra cash? Well, if I ever do something stupid like hit a nail/screw and really gouge the sole, it is going to be a lot easier to lap the sole because I will have less material to remove. I live near the ocean and have spent alot of time away from home; it's a little easier to do routine maintenance and the corrugations minimize the faint scratches from routine use. And to be honest, I real like the look of a corrugated sole. Can't explain it, just like I can't explain why I love the look of Type 11 Bailey planes. There's just something about them.

P.S. Some collector will probably correct me, but past history seems to show corrugated planes seem to hold just a little more value.

Ryan Cathey
05-05-2007, 8:45 PM
I real like the look of a corrugated sole. Can't explain it, just like I can't explain why I love the look of Type 11 Bailey planes. There's just something about them.

Amen to that. I've got two corrugated type 11s...ya just gotta love 'em!:D

Fred Gross
05-05-2007, 8:54 PM
Ryan,

I had a set of 11's (No 3C - No 8C including the 1/2s). Those are some of the ones I will always regret parting with. Guess I'll just have to find some more....:rolleyes:

Ryan Cathey
05-05-2007, 8:56 PM
I've pretty much decided I won't have the funds for a whole set so I'm going to look for a 7C then I'll have a 3C, 5C, and 7C.

Jim Dunn
05-05-2007, 9:23 PM
Ya know there is a intervention galoot club here in Missouri. Just send us your planes and the disease will go away all by it'self:)

Some nice collections here!

Clint Jones
05-05-2007, 9:35 PM
Martin,

P.S. Some collector will probably correct me, but past history seems to show corrugated planes seem to hold just a little more value.
A couple of the corrugated stanley planes are worth more 5 1/4C, No.2C, No.10C and No.10 1/4C. Since you guys are showing off your planes I'll show some good corrugated ones. 5 1/4C and two No.2C planes. Also here are a few I have trapped inside my house.
64041
64042
64043

Ryan Cathey
05-05-2007, 9:39 PM
Clint, I swear you're such a plane j@ck@$$ (j@ck@$$ ..and) ...and I mean that in the highest form of respect possible, seriously I do as a matter of fact I hope to be able to do the same some day. The only consolation I have is I know that those aren't all $5.00 yard sale finds but none-the-less you still suck.

Ryan Cathey
05-05-2007, 10:12 PM
ADDITION: I especially love that 5 1/4C...I drool every time I see it (which seems to be often for some reason;))

Clint Jones
05-05-2007, 10:29 PM
The slope is slippery indeed. After I got to 100 planes I just stopped counting. I do have to PAY for some and some I get dirt cheap.I have to say there have been some nice planes in this post. I like the ones with LN's because I have none only lowly Bedrocks that I use (Wouldnt have it any other way)!:D Since I am a plane J@ck@ss here is a picture of the little guy for you to chew on.:cool:
64064

Ryan Cathey
05-05-2007, 10:32 PM
I love it when people put up pictures holding their number 1s. I've never even seen one let alone held one and it's still a little mind boggling just how little they really are.

Fred Gross
05-06-2007, 12:03 AM
A couple of the corrugated stanley planes are worth more......


It doesn't hurt to have the boxes, either.

Fred Gross
05-06-2007, 12:06 AM
I love it when people put up pictures holding their number 1s. I've never even seen one let alone held one and it's still a little mind boggling just how little they really are.

I came across one with the box, but the gentleman wanted more than I was willing to spend

Ryan Cathey
05-06-2007, 12:44 AM
It doesn't hurt to have the boxes, either.

Icing on the cake.

gary Zimmel
05-06-2007, 1:18 AM
Here are a couple of pics of my planes. I wish I could post picutures like the rest of you. Someday I will get these programs.

The bench planes include LN1, LN2, LN3, LN4, LN4 1/2, LN5 1/4,
LN5 1/2 HAF, LN8, and a LN10 1/4.

The block and specialty planes are LN100, LN100 1/2, LN102, LN140L, LN140R, LN60 1/5, Ln60 1/5R, LN164, LN9, LN62, LN7 1/5, LN98/99,
LN95R, LN95L, LN66, LN40 1/5, LN97 1/5, LN212B, LN85, LN1/5, LN BSS,
BS-C

I see I'm not the only one that has slipped quite hard.....

Ryan Cathey
05-06-2007, 1:21 AM
Hey, Mr. Rockefellar one of the rules is to use your real name...:eek:

Ian Smith
05-06-2007, 3:03 AM
Hey Gary, that is quite a haul. Does it qualify you for inclusion on Tom Lie-Nielsen's personal Christmas card mailing list? ;)

Martin Shupe
05-06-2007, 6:36 AM
Nice collection, Gary. I'm not there, but maybe someday! I have to sneak them into the house, one at a time.

SWMBO: What's in the box this time, dear?
Me: Oh, just something I needed to complete a project. (sneaking off to the shop):D

Brian Hale
05-06-2007, 7:39 AM
Man, you guys got a real $$$ tied up in those LN's :eek:

A question...... Are the LN's superior to the Bedrock series of planes? I've been looking for a nice 604 1/2 for some time now but it seems that $300 is about average which is the price of the LN's.

Keep those pics coming! I'd also like some storage ideas.... ;)

Brian :)

Fred Gross
05-06-2007, 9:09 AM
Probably going to insult some Bedrock owner's, but the LN is a much better plane. The castings are stronger, better quality and machined better. In addition, a Stanley plane iron & chip breaker is no where in the same league as a LN. Also, I think you can now get a HAF for the LN 4 1/2.

P.S. I have owned/own and used both planes. The above is my opinion based on my experience with the care and feeding of both.

Brian Hale
05-06-2007, 4:00 PM
Thanks Fred.

Prices being what they are, an eBay 604 1/2 ($280 - $350) plus a Hock/LN/LV replacement blade will cost more that the LN 4 1/2.

And then there's the LV 4 1/2 at $209. I've not heard anything about how these planes perform but if they're as good as the BU series of planes they should be quite good.

Anyone have one?

Brian :)

Don Bullock
05-06-2007, 6:31 PM
Great thread with some super posts. I must admit that I haven't stepped out on the "slippery slope" yet, but posts like this and the seminar I took on sharpening this weekend are getting me headed in the right direction. I'm getting excited about the possibilities when using planes as opposed to my power tools.;) :D

David Tiell
05-06-2007, 6:50 PM
Not sure what all is in this bunch any more. #3, #4, #4 1/2C, #5C, # 5 1/4, #5 1/2C, #605, #10 1/2, #6C, #7C for starters, with a couple block planes, shoulder planes, and spokeshaves thrown in. Obviously all need a good cleaning, but for now, since moving, they are all in storage boxes. :-(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/dtnq90yr/Woodworking/107-0709_IMG.jpg

Ryan Cathey
05-06-2007, 7:13 PM
Hey, could you put up some pics of the 10 1/2? I'm thinking I might get ahold of a T.11 4C and make my own to match my other T.11 Cs.

Charles Jackson III
05-06-2007, 10:25 PM
Very nice collection of planes, guys.

David Tiell
05-07-2007, 11:37 AM
Hey, could you put up some pics of the 10 1/2? I'm thinking I might get ahold of a T.11 4C and make my own to match my other T.11 Cs.
Ryan,
I'll try to dig it out of the box it's being stored in sometime over the next couple days and get some pics. I'll either post them here or email them to you. Please keep in mind it is still in the same condition as when I bought it at a flea market/antique mall (for $17.50:D ), meaning it's not nice and shiny restored yet. But it's not all rusted up either.

Dave

Steve Clardy
05-07-2007, 7:01 PM
I fell down the slope a few years ago.
I quit counting at 80.

But I just sold 4 bedrocks.

I just acquired a #8 type 13 off of ebay to finish off my set of type 13's.
I have all of them now with the exception of a #1.

Grant Vanbokklen
03-27-2008, 9:19 PM
what is this plane?
http://www.sawmillcreek.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=63979&d=1178392542

Terry Bigelow
03-28-2008, 8:35 AM
:cool: It's mine. It's a Victor plane made by Leonard Bailey. I'm not sure about the time line(I'm sure there are others who are) but from what I understand it was made either before Stanley bought Bailey's design or right after. Leonard Bailey made planes under a couple of different company names including Victor(notice the LB in the center ring of the knob). The depth adjustment set up is unique. There's a large wheel behind the frog that has an offset pin which fits in a series of holes in the iron(see pic). Turning the wheel pushes the pin up or down and the balde along with it. This is a rabbet plane with a nicker on the right side (you can see the small knurled knob inside the casting for setting the depth). Look 'em up on the 'bay they pop up on occasion, although this is the only rabbet one I've ever seen. I just saw a jointer go yesterday or the day before.

Roy Hahn
03-29-2008, 1:01 AM
Impressive guys! I'm such a beginner...:o

Marcus Ward
03-29-2008, 2:38 PM
I'd be hella more interested to see what you guys have made with these fancy tools than the fancy tools themselves.

David White II
03-29-2008, 4:03 PM
Is there any drawback to the corrugated soles? They seemed more common than the plain soles last time at the flea market.