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Randy Klein
04-23-2007, 12:02 PM
I've been researching jointers and have pretty much decided 8in will be a good size. However, I'm having a hard time finding an 8in that runs off 110V, 20 Amps.

The reason I limit myself to 110V and 20 Amps is that I move around alot (military) and am never certain I'll have 220V service in future houses. And I'm pretty certain that the 110 wiring I'll have won't be rated for more than 20 Amps.

Does anyone know of 110v, 20 Amps, 8in jointers? Or will I have to go with a 6in?

I thought the Grizzly G0586 would be it, but they require 24 amps at 110v.

Howard Acheson
04-23-2007, 12:50 PM
The amperage is a function of the horsepower of the motor. Motors to spin the cutterhead on 8" jointers are almost always 2 horsepower. 2HP motors are almost always 20-25 amps @ 120 volts. Of course, if you get a dual voltage motor they will be 20-25 amps @ 120V or 10-12 amps @240 V.

You would probably find that anthing less than 2 HP would not perform very well. It takes lots of horsepower to spin an 8" cutter head when cutting an 8" wide hardwood board.

Randy Klein
04-23-2007, 12:53 PM
Howard, I thought the same thing, but then I wonder why a planer that has a 12" cutterhead can be run on 110V.

I know that the lunchbox planers are universal motors and the jointes are probably induction, but is that what makes the difference?

Eric McMillan
04-23-2007, 12:59 PM
I've got an 8" DJ20 that works just fine on a 110V 20amp circuit. I believe it's only 1.5 HP, but I take light passes so its never been an issue.

Rick Lizek
04-23-2007, 1:03 PM
Not comparing apples to apples. Planers use a universal motor which is a router motor geared down. HP ratings on router and induction motors are two different things.

What's so difficult about adding another breaker to the box where you go? You could plug it in a dryer or stove receptacle.

Just a short time ago all 8" jointers came with 1-1/2 hp motors. 1-1/2 hp will work fine as long as you don't over do it.

I've cheated by using two seperate 110 volt circuits to get 220 on sites.

Usually your table saw is the big amp user. What are you using for a saw?

Randy Klein
04-23-2007, 3:48 PM
My table saw is only a portable ridgid saw, pathetic I know, but it only needs 110. I plan on getting something beefier, maybe the sawstop contractor saw, if and when it ever is released. But that should only need 110 as well.

Eric, I just checked out the delta jointers. It looks like that's only one's out there. How do you like yours?

James Phillips
04-23-2007, 3:59 PM
You wil always have 220v. It just might take a little work to get to it. If you have a Hot Water heater, you will have 220. I stole my garage power from my HW heater. These only run intermittently on a 30 amp 220v dedicated circuit. Am I code? Probably not. Am I safe? Absolutely....

Thane Duncan
04-23-2007, 4:26 PM
Powermatic model 60. Best choice, have it, no complaints, on a 20 amp 110 and runs like a top

TD:)

glenn bradley
04-23-2007, 4:34 PM
Look at the 1.5HP Delta DJ-20 or it's clones. I'm 99% sure they run on 120v.

Fred Gross
04-23-2007, 5:13 PM
If your talking military housing (California anyway), about the only 110v/20 amp outlet you're going to have is going to be for the washing machine right next to the 220v outlet for the dryer. The rest of the 110v outlets (even in the garage) are going to be 15 amp and I can't even start my dust collector with out popping those. I went to HD and got the parts to make a 25' 220v extension cord to run my jointer and my tablesaw.

Barry Richardson
04-23-2007, 5:20 PM
Delta DJ20 is 1.5 HP. It comes wired 220, but is easily convertable to 110, (it has a diagram for wiring to 110 on the motor) It has always had plenty of power for my needs. I use a DJ20 at work that is 220, my home dj20 is wired 110 and I can detect no difference in performance. Contrary to what someone above said, 1.5 hp is plenty. The DJ20 has been around for many years and is a highly regarded machine. Barry

Bruce Benjamin
04-23-2007, 7:42 PM
Actually, you only have 220 for you water heater if it's an electric. Where I live, there are more natural gas and propane than electric water heaters. But on a side note, why would you want to heat Hot water? I thought they were just, water heaters. ;) :D I use the 220v outlet for my clothes dryer. I have a gas dryer so the 220v outlet is unused otherwise.

Bruce


You wil always have 220v. It just might take a little work to get to it. If you have a Hot Water heater, you will have 220. I stole my garage power from my HW heater. These only run intermittently on a 30 amp 220v dedicated circuit. Am I code? Probably not. Am I safe? Absolutely....

Randy Klein
04-25-2007, 7:52 AM
I looked at the DJ20. Why is so much more expensive than the other 8" jointers?

Unless I'm not looking in the right place, but this is what I'm referring to:
http://www.amazon.com/Delta-37-350A-Precision-Horsepower-240-Volt/dp/B00004Y73P/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-9077540-8047812?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1177501845&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/Delta-37-365X-Precision-Horsepower-240-Volt/dp/B0000A260M/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-9077540-8047812?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1177501845&sr=8-2