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Justin King
04-19-2007, 8:48 PM
I am getting ready build 2 matching desks and the LOML really wants to ebonize it. While I don't necessary like that idea, she usually wins.

I am most likely going to use Red Oak even though it is ordinary. I hope my design will redeem me.

I would really like to hear some of your suggestions.

I would like to find a wood that I can put a clear finish on and have it be very stark white in color( as much as possible).

I am planning to make the tops and maybe some accent pieces with the "white" pieces.

Thanks
Justin

Ken Fitzgerald
04-19-2007, 8:50 PM
Justin.....holly....maybe

Roy McQuay
04-19-2007, 8:54 PM
Holly is the whitest wood I've ever seen, but getting clear lumber can be difficult and expensive.

Ron Jones near Indy
04-19-2007, 8:58 PM
Another vote for holly. I also think it can be pricey depending on the size and quality.

jerry cousins
04-19-2007, 9:03 PM
like everyone said - holly. but i have seen some german maple that is quite clear and quite white.

maybe check guitar/tone wood suppliers.

jerry

Andrew Williams
04-19-2007, 9:09 PM
If you are going through the process of ebonizing wood, then why not go through the process of bleaching wood?

Justin King
04-19-2007, 9:09 PM
Well, that was quick and unanimous, wasn't it!

Thanks Guys

I am off to look at some Holly projects for a bit...

John Lucas
04-20-2007, 5:10 AM
If you are going through the process of ebonizing wood, then why not go through the process of bleaching wood?

I second that suggestion. Get some straight grained maple and bleach it.

Phil Harding
04-20-2007, 8:26 AM
I built a hall table with a walnut top with a dark wipe-on stain. I wanted the legs and stretchers to be a stark contrast so I used maple that I bleached. The bleach is a two part solution - a little klutsy to handle but the results were just what I wanted.

-- Phil

Joe Unni
04-20-2007, 5:05 PM
I actually did a trial today using the two part bleach system on some soft maple. I'm trying to lighten the heart wood a bit so it will contrast with a padauk top. My test pieces were brightened quite a bit.

Good luck,
-joe

Neil Lamens
04-20-2007, 6:34 PM
Hey justin:

What about ash.............gains give a nice texture when ebonixed also.

Neil

Charley Preston
04-20-2007, 7:18 PM
Not to hijack, but what IS the process to bleach?? I've never done it... Just used holly - haha.

Az Fred
04-20-2007, 11:34 PM
Bleach wood??????

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Richard M. Wolfe
04-21-2007, 12:11 AM
There are three types of bleach that can be used on wood, and they have different purposes. I took the following from an article that condensed what Bob Flexner stated about bleaching wood:

"Flexner states "There are three types of bleach used in woodworking...Two-Part bleach (sodium hydroxide and hydrogen peroxide) removes the natural color from the wood. Chlorine bleach removes the dye from the wood....And Oxalic acid removes rust and water stains from wood.""

I haven't tried using oxalic acid as I never thought I had a situation that called for it. I just played around a bit with putting household bleach on wood and found it had no effect on the oak I used. I built a bookcase for a client and when I tested stain on birch plywood and birch solids I used for the face frame I found I had two completely different looks. I used the two part bleach to lighten the carcase and finally got a passable match. Nothing I want to do again.

Andrew Williams
04-21-2007, 12:54 AM
I clean my boat hull with oxalic acid. It is awesome at removing rust. POSITIVELY do not use it indoors without a proper chemical respirator and goggles.

Az Fred
04-21-2007, 9:22 AM
White Maple and English Sycamore are light woods and can be bleached to a very white and Ash goes to yellow while Red Oak goes to Mauve (pink) when white washed. Mix in a little titanium for a stark white stain/wash. it only takes a couple of drops of titanium. I have a recipe somewhere that I would share if interested.