Help me decide DW735 or Delta 22-580

[Dave Malen]

I'm leaning towards the delta because it is quieter (I know I'll still have to wear hearing protection) and it is cheaper. Amazon has it for 426.99 with dust hood this weakend. Plus you don't have to buy extension tables. The dewalt is 549 - 60 mail in rebate which is 489 then extension tables are another 32 which makes 521. Shipping is free for both. The other issue with the dewalt is the knives. Some people complain about short life span. On the other hand the delta has a snipe lock which needs to be unlocked every time the cutter head is moved. (delta owners - is this a pita or not?) I assume the dewalt gives a better finish with the three blade cutter head. So is it the dewalt or the delta. Help me spend my money!
Thanks
Dave

[Dave Falkenstein]

You can get the Dewalt DW735 here for $495 and then get the $60 rebate from Dewalt:

http://www.tools-plus.com/dewalt-dw735.html

I went through the same decision about three months ago and decided on the DW735, mainly because of the generally favorable comments I got here in Sawmill Creek. Look here:

http://sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=48993

I have used the DW735 a little, and have absolutely no reason to doubt my decision. The only outstanding issue I know about is short blade life, and I understand Dewalt has come out with a new blade set that hopefully resolves that issue.

[David Weaver]

I have a 22-580, and I'm sure others are going to speak up here and say they do, too.

I'd say get whichever one you like more.

I really like the 22-580, but I only plane a few bf a week, so I can't say a lot. It leaves a nice finish, and the dust hood with a shop vac attached does a good job of keeping the dust down.

I've planed oak and pine in it, neither is a problem. The oak boards I ran through it are probably about 8 inches, and it did a great job on them - though most planers with new knives probably do.

[scott spencer]

I'm happy with my 22-580, and I don't find the cutterhead lock mechanism to a problem at all. For even money, I'd lean toward the 735 for the chip ejector. The 22-580 is usually the better value IMO, but sometimes the deals on the 735 are pretty attracitve. I have seen the 22-580 for considerably less than $426....none of those deals will help you now, but if you're patient, the deals do pop up.

Both seem to be good planers.

[Curt Harms]

.... On the other hand the delta has a snipe lock which needs to be unlocked every time the cutter head is moved. (delta owners - is this a pita or not?) I assume the dewalt gives a better finish with the three blade cutter head. So is it the dewalt or the delta. Help me spend my money!
Thanks
Dave
I have the Delta. I've tried the 2 speeds, I've tried the cutter head lock. I don't use either one. There's no snipe without the cutterhead lock. The slower feed speed might make a difference with figured stock but I can't notice any difference with run-of-the-mill hardwoods. The speed "shifter" is a known pain, it's hard to change and must be changed while the machine is running. I did have a problem with dust collection while planing wet Pressure Treated 4 X 4's for deck posts, the sucker would plug because the shavings were long and stringy. No dust collector problems with reasonably dry woods. No experience at all with the DeWalt planer.

HTH

Curt

[Mandell Mann]

I just bought the Dewalt 735 for $466 FROM LOWES and they gave me $60 lowes gift card (mail -in).

[Mandell Mann]

The way I understand it, most of the users of small planers get snipes because they don't buy or use the extended tables. My advice is if you don't want to buy the extended tables then make something that will support your boards going both in and out of the planer.

[Steve Roxberg]

I found this information on the fatwallet site in their forum area, I have repeated here. If this works, and it should it seems like a pretty sweet deal. Somebody else did all the hard work and they desire the credit, but I didn't know how to link their message thread in directly.

Good luck, with my recent Domino purchase I can't get in on this one.


Step 1: Purchase a DeWalt DW735 15 Amp 13-Inch Benchtop Planer at Lowes B&M for $549 (or less - it was $499 at my Store) plus tax. Here is a link to the model on the Lowes web site (http://www.fatwallet.com/redirect/bounce.php?afsrc=1&url=http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=221858-70-DW735&lpage=none).

Lowes is running a sale for 15% off power tools sale through April 11 (Link to Ad (http://www.fatwallet.com/redirect/bounce.php?afsrc=1&url=http://lowes.shoplocal.com/lowes/Default.aspx?action=browsepagelarge&storeid=2505601&rapid=384461&pagenumber=1)). So you save $82.35 to get an out the door price of $466.65 plus tax.

Step 2. Dewalt has a $60 manufacture rebate with original UPC and original receipt. Link to rebate (Mission, KS) ending April 30 (http://www.fatwallet.com/redirect/bounce.php?afsrc=1&url=http://www.dewalt.com/DWAssets/english/pdf/rebates/2007Q1/woodworkingPromotion.pdf). So we are down to $406.65

Step 3. Lowes has a $60 store gift card rebate with photocopy of receipt, no UPC needed. Link to Lowes gift card rebate (El Paso, TX) ending April 30 (http://www.fatwallet.com/redirect/bounce.php?afsrc=1&url=http://www.lowespromos.com/PDFs/1382-1.pdf). So we are down to $346.65 (or $304.15 if the starting price is $499).

If my math is right that is a savings of $202.35, or about 37% off retail price (or 41% of $499).

Places where the deal could go wrong (let's read the fine print):
1 DeWalt claims Lowes is not "an authorized DeWalt authorized channel and retailer" - Not likely.
2 Lowes claims you can not double dip the gift card rebate with the 15% off deal - Possible, but the rebate form never states "not valid with any other offer" so I think it will work.
3 DeWalt or Lowes say you can't use their rebate with the other rebate - not likely since they are in two different processing centers.

So... I think this will fly. Greatest risk is not getting the 15% off and $60 gift card so there might be a risk of that $60.

There are good professional reviews for this planer Wood Magazine (http://www.fatwallet.com/redirect/bounce.php?afsrc=1&url=http://www.woodmagazine.com/wood/story.jhtml?storyid=/templatedata/wood/story/data/1162245696468.xml), Popular Woodworking (http://www.fatwallet.com/redirect/bounce.php?afsrc=1&url=http://www.popularwoodworking.com/features/planers.0204.pdf), and NewWoodworker (http://www.fatwallet.com/redirect/bounce.php?afsrc=1&url=http://www.newwoodworker.com/reviews/dw735rvu.html). Consumer reviews on woodworking forums and Amazon (http://www.fatwallet.com/redirect/bounce.php?afsrc=1&url=http://www.amazon.com/) are ok, with most complaints about knives dulling quickly and the rollers not feeding correctly over time. I had made up my mind to get the Delta (http://www.fatwallet.com/redirect/bounce.php?afsrc=1&url=http://www.delta.com/) 22-580 ($429 on Amazon (http://www.fatwallet.com/redirect/bounce.php?afsrc=1&url=http://www.amazon.com/)) due to price and the knife issue but this deal will buy me a LOT of extra knives.

Lowes says 1 year warranty, but DeWalt says 3-year Warranty Information[/I] Link in page.]http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/tool_detail.asp?productID=5935

Hope this helps!

[Alex Berkovsky]

...I did have a problem with dust collection while planing wet Pressure Treated 4 X 4's for deck posts...Curt,
I was under the impression that running PT lumber through a planer is a no-no.

[Jim Bell]

I have a Delta and like it. If it broke tomorrow I'd buy the same machine again.

[Mike Henderson]

I replaced an older Delta planer with the DeWalt 735 and have been happy with the planer except for blade life. I think DeWalt has come out with new blades with a longer life but I'm not sure.

The 735 with fresh blades does a great job. Initially, I did not have the table extensions and did not encounter any snipe. It is a very heavy planer so if you plan to transport it, you might be better with a lighter unit.

That deal that Steve posted where the price gets down to $300 - $350 makes the 735 pretty attractive.

If you plan to use it as a fixed installation in your shop, take a look at the 15" floor models. A bit more money but...

Mike

[Jesse Espe]

Dave,

I've had the 735 for about a year and half now. Never had any significant issues with it. Rediculously simple to operate and maintain. I did buy the feed tables with it, and eventually got the associated stand (every once in a while, Amazon will drop the price on them).

I've probably run about 600 board feet total, and don't have an issue with knives -- yet. When it's time to replace them, I'll most likely get the HSS knives from Infinity Tools.

Cheers,
Jesse

[John Callahan]

If noise is a concern, you might consider the Makita 2012NB. Quieter than the DeWalt and Delta and more portable than either. I looked long and hard at the 22-580 and DW735; in the end I went with the Makita and would do so again.

[Darrell Craig]

Bought a 735 at Sears 2 days ago for $439 (549 less current 20% promo), with $60 cash rebate for net cost of $379.

[Curt Harms]

Curt,
I was under the impression that running PT lumber through a planer is a no-no.

Hmmm, maybe but I don't know why. P.T. is wet but it didn't seem to cause any problems with rust. I do have good D.C. and there was no dust, just long shavings. While I can see risks with working with P.T. wood, I wonder if the risks are not somwhat overstated. I'm sure if I cut P.T. wood all day and licked my fingers every few minutes I might be exposed to high levels of toxins but I don't plan on doing that.:eek:.

Curt

[Tim Pippin]

I bought the 735 from redmond machinery at the WW show. I got a package deal for the planer, outfeed tables, mobile stand and chip bag for about $550. I completed the $60 rebate form and got a post card from Dewalt stating that redmond wasn't participating in the rebates. I called redmond and they are checking into it. Long story short don't depend on the rebate. Other wise the planer works great.

Tim

[Dave Malen]

the Dewalt 735.
I went over to HD and bought one. The store manager met the lowes 15% deal and added on another 10% after the 15% discount, So it was 419 + tax - which came to a grand total of 444.78 . Then there is the dewalt$60 mail in rebate. So the bottom line is $384.78. I then went online at amazon and got the extension tables for 32.
Mike - I was thinking of a 15 inch stationary planer - but I have a basement shop and I just can't see getting a 500 lb machine down those steps. Also as you can see money is a consideration. The cheapest stationary planer I saw was a jet model. It was about 900 on sale. I read amazon user reviews saying that it takes 4 people to lift the machine onto its base. For my purposes a benchtop planer will have to be enough.

Steve- your double dip rebate idea sounds interesting.I checked the lowes site and it does say the rebabe is not good with any other offers or promotions. Yet, I could see it working because the addresses are different. OTOH if it sounds too good to be true it probablly isn't. Since my local store was out of stock I decided not to pursue it and went over to HD.

Well - now the only thing left is to let some chips fly. I'll let you know what i think.

Thanks to all,
Dave