Style & Rail doors, new to me.

[Sammy Shuford]

I am getting ready to make my first style and rail doors. I think I understand the process.

Assuming I cut the styles and rails the same length as if I was doing a simple butt joint. If I now process them as style and rail, will the completed door will be smaller? If so, by how much?

I plan on making some scrape to test the process, but there must be a standard adjustment.

Thanks,

[luc gendron]

Assuming your profile set is like mine, Freud panel raising bit set, you will lose 3/4'' in width due to the profiles that interlock (mortise and tenon)

[Sammy Shuford]

If's it's profile dependant, (and that makes sense to me) then MLCS should include that with their bit set. (I have not received the set yet, maybe they do!)

[Fred Voorhees]

Sammy, you must factor in the amount of tongue length that your rails will lose when the joint fits together. On my personal set of bits, I have to add 7/8" between both ends loss.

[Steve Clardy]

As an example.

My standard stiles are 2 1/2" wide.

So to get the rail length needed, figuring you have standard 3/8" rail and stile cutters [3/8" is the depth of cut on tongue and grooves]


Now say you have a door that will be 16 1/2" wide when completed.

Two ways to figure the rail length.

Deduct the stile width [2 stiles] is 5"

Add back in the 3/8" for both ends, which will be 3/4"

What this ends up to be is to simply deduct 4 1/4" off your total door width to find your rail width. [Using 2 1/2" as your stile width]

16.5 door
Deduct 4 1/4" = 12 1/4" rail length

[Sammy Shuford]

Thanks Steve & all.
MLCS said 3/8 for each side, so Steves numbers will work for me.

[Sammy Shuford]

Thanks for all the responce and BUMP back to the top!:)

Does one make drawer fronts with Style & rail?:confused:

If so, do use use the same width for the styles and rails, or make them smaller due to the smaller size of the drawer front.

[Jim Becker]

You can make drawer fronts using frame and panel using rail and stile cutters if you want to. The proportion relative to the cabinet rails and stiles is style dependent...sometimes you keep the size the same and other times you reduce. I think we need a lot more information and/or sketches to best help you on that!

[Sammy Shuford]

Ok, I have attached a picture in primer!

The lower doors on either side will be really two doors, and three rail door split in the middle. Door rails & styles are 2.25

The drawer openings are 4 inches, so with 1/2 overlay I have a 5" front. That does not leave much inside the "frame".

[Joe Chritz]

Drawer front stiles are 2.25", rails are 1.75". Overall height is 6"

A 5" drawer front is getting pretty narrow for a panel style.

Joe

[Caleb Dietrich]

It's your choice, whether you do a 5 piece or 1 piece drawer front. If you choose to do a 5 piece, mill the stiles as one long piece and cut it into 2 pieces afterward.

[Jim Becker]

A 5" drawer front is getting pretty narrow for a panel style.

Agree...a flat door may be a better choice for this particular project.

[Sammy Shuford]

Yep, my wife agrees with that also.

I will post pictures when completed.

[John Keane]

Suggest that you visit Oldham-usa.com. They have an excellent tutorial on raised panels construction that is printable. It is my bible for doing raised panels.sommerfeldtools.com also has a tutorial. Good Luck

[Sammy Shuford]

Thanks,
heading out there now.

[Sammy Shuford]

61236Well, the doors and drawer fronts have been cut and dry fit. Cut the panels tomorrow.

My first set of these. (other than a pratice door)

[Lou Ferrarini]

If you think you will be making a lot of doors in the future, I highly recommend this:

http://www.woodshopcalc.com/products_cabdoor_full.php

I have been using it for over a year and it completely takes the guess work out of making R&S doors.

[Sammy Shuford]

Looks like the same software from MLCS. Nice package.

[glenn bradley]

Sammy,

MLCS includes instructions on their website for a lot of their products. Here's your stuff:

http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/graphics2/TM04-11railstile.pdf