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Mark Singer
01-19-2007, 11:36 AM
PM in this case is Philip Marcou...a great plane! Not a "private Message"...however the message is a great one...Well I get a fair amount of PM's and they are usually a thanks or a question I am glad to try to answer...if I know the answer:confused:
This PM was even better .....a lot better. a Philip Marcou S20A low angle smoother.... Amazing to behold! The weight 8 1/2 pounds! On my first test trial ....figured Shedua smooth surface while planing either direction! Yes it happened... Check the construction of this baby...its the real thing! It really works ...not something beautiful to spend its life in a glass case...like a bottle of wine ....too fine to drink:rolleyes:

The bad news....this is a "Have Gloat Will Travel" kind of a story...beautiful...great to hold ...but she is not my baby:(
She is with me for a review which I am glad to do;)
Then back to Wiktor and the review goes on his site...
She has been traveling ....made in New Zealand by Marcou of Zimbabwae then she moved to Albequerquie , New Mexico and last night she slept in my home in Laguna...no not in the shop....my other planes get a bit jealous over the shinny body and she needs to acclimate ...New Mexico is warmer:rolleyes:

Steven Wilson
01-19-2007, 11:55 AM
Plane porn - great stuff.

James Carmichael
01-19-2007, 12:23 PM
Whew, I need a cold shower!

Bruce Page
01-19-2007, 2:23 PM
I wonder who the lucky stiff was here in Albuquerque :rolleyes: was, it wasn't me!
Beautiful smoother, excellent machining!

Wiktor Kuc
01-19-2007, 5:04 PM
It is me...

Are you in ABQ, Bruce?

Marc Waldbillig
01-19-2007, 5:15 PM
... and last night she slept in my home in Laguna...no not in the shop....my other planes get a bit jealous over the shinny body and she needs to acclimate ...New Mexico is warmer:rolleyes:

Oh Mark,

That's not fair! Think of your other planes! You will spend with them the rest of your life and this little lady you prefer over them just for a night? Shame on you :D :rolleyes:

Regards,

Marc

P.s.: Never heard that metal has to acclimate :p

Mark Singer
01-19-2007, 5:56 PM
Oh Mark,

That's not fair! Think of your other planes! You will spend with them the rest of your life and this little lady you prefer over them just for a night? Shame on you :D :rolleyes:

Regards,

Marc

P.s.: Never heard that metal has to acclimate :p

She is too pretty to have her sleep in the cold:rolleyes: ...a little firm under the pillow though:rolleyes:

Bruce Page
01-19-2007, 6:14 PM
It is me...

Are you in ABQ, Bruce?
Hello Wiktor,
Yes, I’m in the heights near Constitution & Chelwood.
Welcome to SMC

Derek Cohen
01-19-2007, 7:00 PM
Hi Mark

Philip's smoother looks awsome! And familiar! It is the Real McCoy. The S15 I have has such a sense of Authority, like no other plane I have used. It is an Experience to experience this. I suspect that the S20A will have a performance that is the same as the S15 (the "S" stands for "smoother" and the "15" and the "20" refer to the angle of the bed, so the S15 is a smoother with a 15 degree bed, and the S20 is a smoother with a 20 degree bed). I also have a little parental involvement with the S20 in that I had Philip make this bed choice available (not that I had any input otherwise into the design). For a dedicated smoother, one that is unlikely to be used on a shooting board, then a higher bed is better so that the bevel angle may be reduced - the edge should then have more penetration and last longer than one with a high bevel/low bed angle (current LN and LV bevel up planes have a 12 degree bed, the Holtey #98 has a 22 1/2 degree bed, and the Stanley #3 conversion I recently built has a 25 degree bed).

I am looking forward to your review.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Mark Singer
01-19-2007, 7:40 PM
Derek,
Thanks for the info...I can't believe the mass and feel of this plane...I may try it on this Sapelle bed I am making....drawer faces may be Bocote...which is tricky to plane... The mouth adjustment has a screw on each side and can be skewed to the iron ...I don't know what difference that would make usually a tight mouth is better with figured woods...we shall see. the knob and tote are wenge...it is very special!

Derek Cohen
01-19-2007, 7:50 PM
Mark

I don't bother with the mouth adjustment any more. Frankly, Philip could just as well make them without this feature (it is a perceived advantage more than a real one when the other important factors are built correctly). In any event, the mouth is not as small as some planes, so I just leave it in its "small" position.

I assume that you have read my review of the S15? It is at
http://www.wkfinetools.com/contrib/dCohen/marcou1/index.asp

Regards from Perth

Derek

Jim Becker
01-19-2007, 8:45 PM
Beefy lookin' bugger! 8 1/2 pounds? Wow! How about some pictures of the resulting surfaces? Enquiring minds want to...um...see... :)

Dan Forman
01-20-2007, 1:53 AM
Very cool, but would be hard to part with once in the stable.

Dan

philip marcou
01-20-2007, 3:33 AM
Yah Mark, seems that you are stricken. This is not an unsual scenario, given the particulars of this , er , lady you refer to : I am steadily gaining experience in dealing with similar situations, with a view to a happy and long-lasting outcome. Wedding bells?:)

Roy Wall
01-20-2007, 9:00 AM
That is the same weight as the LN #7 ......!!!

Enjoy the shavings Mark!

Mark Singer
01-20-2007, 9:54 AM
Yah Mark, seems that you are stricken. This is not an unsual scenario, given the particulars of this , er , lady you refer to : I am steadily gaining experience in dealing with similar situations, with a view to a happy and long-lasting outcome. Wedding bells?:)

Philip,
A pleasure to behold one of your planes! You are a Master! No question about that! I greatly appreciate the opportunity to review this piece of art that just happens to be a fine tool! I have the LV Veritas BUS and also the LN 164 to make comparisons...I think it will be a "No contest" comparison based on my early trial with the PM 20A.... We shall see. In fairness I will hone the other irons ....This is just a beauty to see and use..!