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Bill Wyko
01-12-2007, 11:36 AM
Well I finally finshed it at about 1:30AM. Keep in mind I had never touched a lathe before december 2006. There's 244 peices. It's 5-1/4 inches tall and 5-1/4 inches wide. The material is king wood, curly maple, purple heart and Bubinga for the base. The walls are 3/16 to 1/4 thick and its finshed inside and out with deft and minwax. Hope you all like it.
Also here's a pic of a beautiful peice of bocote and desert Iron wood I picked up.
Mr. Tibbetts, you said a vessel should look good upside down as well as right side up so I put up a pic of it upside down.:D
I learned alot on this one. I can't wait to start the one with the Bocote.:D

Ken Fitzgerald
01-12-2007, 12:10 PM
Bill...........You have more natural talent that I'll ever have even if I commit myself to years worth of turning lessons from the best of the best!

Well done sir! Very well done..............

BOB BUCHANAN
01-12-2007, 1:21 PM
That bowl is terrible!!! I've never seen such a horrible example. I am willing to dispose of this disaster for you. Hee Haw!!!
Very nice work!! You have and exceptional talent.

Steve Schlumpf
01-12-2007, 1:27 PM
Bill, very nice work! Thanks for the photo history of the project - heck of a lot of work involved for one project! Looking forward to your next posting!

Travis Hirst
01-12-2007, 1:40 PM
One word for you wow!!!!!!!!

very nice.

Travis

Bill Wyko
01-12-2007, 1:47 PM
Thanks gentlemen, Every time i finsh My mind is spinning on what to do next. I just bought another peice of that Bocote while I had the chance. I also picked up a peice of Wenge. Its almost black, I look at it as a poor mans black ebony.:D My garage is an absolute disaster but I'll get it cleaned up tonight and start the next one this weekend.:) Here's a pic of the aftermath.:eek:

Bill Wyko
01-12-2007, 1:50 PM
The next one I'm going to try to break 400 peices and stay under 6 inches tall:confused: :rolleyes: I absolutly love this stuff:D

Bill Wyko
01-12-2007, 5:57 PM
By the way, have any of you ever worked with Bocote? I've built square boxes with all types of wood but I'm still very green when it comes to turning.:rolleyes:

Mike Marmon
01-12-2007, 7:24 PM
Hi Bill;

I have minimal experience turning Bocote. I turned the small bowl attached late last year 4 X 2 X 1/4 no finnish yet. It is a great wood to turn , it is feels alot like wax. It is very oily and finishes nicely. It will clog your sand paper quickly.

Good luck,
Mike

Bill Wyko
01-12-2007, 7:32 PM
Thanks, I'm glad to hear that because I bought about 15 board feet of it:D . How about gluing it to other peices. Ever had any problems? Thanks.

John Hart
01-13-2007, 8:04 AM
Bill...........You have more natural talent that I'll ever have even if I commit myself to years worth of turning lessons from the best of the best!

Well done sir! Very well done..............

I second that emotion.;)

Alex Cam
01-13-2007, 8:15 AM
Fantastic -- beautiful work!

Christopher K. Hartley
01-13-2007, 9:21 AM
Bill I'm Overwhelmed! Such beautiful segmented work. I was getting a bit discouraged then you showed the shop photo. That, I could relate to. Maybe there is hope for me yet. Keep em comin guy!!:)

Bernie Weishapl
01-13-2007, 10:14 AM
Keep'em coming Bill. You have more patients than I do. Beautiful piece.

Gary DeWitt
01-13-2007, 10:28 AM
What disaster? Looks normal to me. BTW, took me months to convince LOML that this is the way a turners' shop looks!
Thats such a nice piece, I believe you're going to have to call it a studio now.

Malcolm Tibbetts
01-13-2007, 10:35 AM
Bill, you asked about "gluing" bocote. It's quite an oily wood, not as bad as some of the rosewoods and certainly not as bad as teak, but nevertheless a cause for concern when gluing. Some people advocate wiping the glue surfaces with solvents, acetone, brake fluid, etc. I think lab tests have shown that it doesn't make much difference. A tip that I picked up many years ago, which sort of makes sense is - DON'T WAIT. Glue your end-grain to end-grain joints soon after cutting or sanding. Extractives will eventually seep out of the wood and affect the glue joint strength. Sometimes I have to wait hours, but I don't let oily wood segments sit overnight before gluing them. Good luck with your project.

Bill Wyko
01-13-2007, 12:23 PM
Thanks everyone. All the compliments in its self motivates me to do more. Typically when I cut my segments I sand and glue them up right away so I guess I'm on the right track. This vessel was quite a challenge. Seam ailgnment was much more difficult than the last one. Everyone is a learning experience along with the challenge of not only building it but deciding the look as well. By the time I'm done I see things that I feel I should have done different. Oh well I guess thats what the next one is for. I'll keep posting the build of them if everyone is ok with that. Thanks again everyone.:D

Bill Wyko
01-13-2007, 3:08 PM
I was'nt quite happy with the finsh so I'm going to give it some more elbo grease. I'll put up another pic when I'm happy with it.

Mark Pruitt
01-13-2007, 3:31 PM
Bill,
It is quite obvious that you have a great amount of skill when it comes to cutting and assembling segmened turnings, as well as great skill in designing patterns that are appealing. I've never tried segmented turning and I have to say that you are making it look very, very appealing to me.

I do want to offer one bit of feedback which I mean only to be for your own benefit as you continue to develop this skill. That has to do with form, or profile. While the piece you have displayed in this thread is beautiful, I think it would have been even more so if you had created a smaller foot; i.e. made it a significantly smaller diameter at the base and cut a gentle curving movement in that direction. Basically, I'm talking about a convex profile from the outtermost circumference down to the base, where you made it concave instead. But even with the concave profile I tend to think that a smaller foot would have been beneficial to the overall beauty of this piece.

That being said, there is a lot of subjectivity to turning design, and what gets a second or third look from one may not speak at all to another. Just offering some food for thought as you move forward.

Congratulations on your achievments!

Bill Wyko
01-13-2007, 3:46 PM
Actually i felt the same way, when I stood back and looked at it It did look a little wide at the base. I kind of made a mistake with the base when I statred though. I dished out the center a little too much so when I added the second ring I had to go wider to prevent an undercut between the base and the first ring on the inside. This one was quite a learning experience I must say. Also when I was turning the top my gouge caught and put a spiral gouge all the way across the top. I thought it was ruined but fortunatly there was enough material to clean it up. I like using a scraper to finsh up with. I seem to have more control with it.
Thanks very much Mark, I greatly value your opinion. Hopefully I can start the next one this weekend.

It's been kind of cold in the shop here in Tucson, we had to switch from tank tops to tee shirts.:D

John Hart
01-13-2007, 8:28 PM
...It's been kind of cold in the shop here in Tucson, we had to switch from tank tops to tee shirts.:D

Yeah...me too. The fire got kinda low in the wood burner and I had to put on a third layer of sweatshirt. So.....kinda the same here.;)

Bill Wyko
01-16-2007, 3:01 PM
Well, I've started the next one. Right now it's just a bunch of rings but I'll get some pics up soon.

It's been in the 20's the last few nights, very uncommon for our area. I put a mini space heater blowing on the peices I've glued up to get them to dry in a reasonable time.