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Chuck Hanger
10-26-2006, 5:35 PM
Back on August 16th thread topic "Poor Decision" was posted about the judges decision to let some boys play football at the local high school in Kenton, Ohio. If anyone is interested both 20/20 and ESPN has been to Kenton recently. Have no idea what direction ESPN is taking, but living close we have found out from the family of one of the injured that it is suppose to air Friday 10/27 at 3:30 pm on their show called Outside The Lines.
Chuck

Joe Pelonio
10-26-2006, 6:34 PM
I remember that. Amazing story, that judge should not be able to stand looking into the mirror. :mad: I'm glad it's getting some publicity.

Robert Mickley
10-26-2006, 7:02 PM
I'm interested in seeing it. I was just amazed that the judge had the audacity to basicly let them off the hook like that.

Tim Morton
10-26-2006, 7:17 PM
Link:
http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=41357&highlight=Poor+Decision

Ken Salisbury
10-26-2006, 8:37 PM
This even makes me sick. As an ex high school football coach I can guarantee you they would have been kicked off of the team for their actions. They wouldn't even qualify as water boys. Football players should be roll models for the rest of the student body.

Jim Becker
10-26-2006, 9:06 PM
I agree with Ken's last sentence whole-heartedly. My first year at Penn State, I managed to score a "team manager" roll with the football team...it should have been titled "slave". :o And yes, I even had the "pleasure" of being yelled at by Paterno for wearing red sweat pants one day 'cause I was going to be late otherwise...:eek: But I digress....;)

What I was incredibly struck by was the high standard that those men had to maintain when it came to academics and off-field behavior. There were certain expectations when I played the game in high school, but the way things were at PSU was a real eye opener. School came first. Every day. They made sure that the men had a meal and scheduled study time so that practice and other atheletic activities didn't compromise their education. Bad behavior was not tolerated.

The point of this ramble is that I also feel that athletes need to strive to be the leaders...the best...in everything they do. Unfortunately, in society today, winning the game seems to take precedence over playing the game. The situation referred to in the original post above is a clear example of that.

Jerry Olexa
10-26-2006, 10:23 PM
. My first year at Penn State, I managed to score a "team manager" roll with the football team...it should have been titled "slave". :o And yes, I even had the "pleasure" of being yelled at by Paterno for wearing red sweat pants one day 'cause I was going to be late otherwise...:eek: But I digress....;)

What I was incredibly struck by was the high standard that those men had to maintain when it came to academics and off-field behavior. There were certain expectations when I played the game in high school, but the way things were at PSU was a real eye opener. School came first. Every day. They made sure that the men had a meal and scheduled study time so that practice and other atheletic activities didn't compromise their education. Bad behavior was not tolerated.

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Jim: I'm impressed with your on the scene comments above about PSU football. I'm a little bias, being a PSU alumnus also, but I've always had utmost respect for Paterno and his program. Even at the risk of losing, Joe always places acedemics first and FBall second. His graduation rate is one of the highest in the nation and yet he's won 2 nat'l championships and had over 4 undefeated seasons.His current all American Linebacker carries a 3.6 cum and will graduate on time. This is not typical of most of today's "win at all cost" college football programs (I won't mention them) nor of the example in the thread above. Thanks Jim for your comments.I'm proud of them (even if this year they're having a mediocre "down" year:) .)

Joe Mioux
10-26-2006, 11:11 PM
I agree with Ken's last sentence whole-heartedly. My first year at Penn State, I managed to score a "team manager" roll with the football team...it should have been titled "slave". :o And yes, I even had the "pleasure" of being yelled at by Paterno for wearing red sweat pants one day 'cause I was going to be late otherwise...:eek: But I digress....;)

What I was incredibly struck by was the high standard that those men had to maintain when it came to academics and off-field behavior. There were certain expectations when I played the game in high school, but the way things were at PSU was a real eye opener. School came first. Every day. They made sure that the men had a meal and scheduled study time so that practice and other atheletic activities didn't compromise their education. Bad behavior was not tolerated.

The point of this ramble is that I also feel that athletes need to strive to be the leaders...the best...in everything they do. Unfortunately, in society today, winning the game seems to take precedence over playing the game. The situation referred to in the original post above is a clear example of that.

Paterno is a different breed of cat!

He is a gem!

joe

Chuck Hanger
10-27-2006, 7:52 AM
I do remember our local paper having a artical about the sheriff being at the first game to escort one of the boys home after about 6 or 8 minutes into the game. Guess that his curfew was 8PM. Never heard anymore about it after that. Myself, I know of no one (including myself) that could believe the court's (can't really say judge because I do not beleive that is what he is) decision.
If we find out about the 20/20 airing I will post it also.
Chuck

Robert Mickley
10-27-2006, 4:05 PM
Dang it I missed most of it. I couldn't believe that coach, Basicly he figured the court punished them so it wasn't up to him to punish them further. :rolleyes: I'm just amazed that someone like that is a coach.
The mother of the one boy was going on about how she felt sorry for them, Well if she feels so sorry maybe she should start paying the medical bills.

If that had been one of my kids I can guarrrenty you they would NOT have been playing football.

Chuck Hanger
10-27-2006, 4:26 PM
I have the greatest respect for ESPN for their report on the story. Great job. The coach, also principal, gave about the dumbest answer he could have to the interviewer.
Also received a call this morning from a friend that is close to the case who told me that 3 of those involved were caught drinking last nite. Nervous maybe about their first TV appearance!
Chuck

jeremy levine
10-30-2006, 2:47 PM
It all really pisses me off. Make me think of the kids that threw a frozen turkey off an overpass and put a woman in critical condition. He got *#$% for a sentence.

Bryan Somers
10-31-2006, 1:24 PM
I presented this case several weeks back in a business law class I'm taking. I was a little suprised but pleased to hear 2 other students who both played varsity sports in high school and had just graduated come down really hard on the boys, the judge, and the coach for letting them stay on the team. Theres about 30 in the class only a few of us over 25 and none of them thought it was right. The instructor is an attorney and just shook her head during the discussion.

I'm glad this got some national attention.