Dadgum time! Attn: admins

[Rod Peterson]

Hey Keith, et al,

I was reading some posts and noticed the time stamp at the bottom. It read "03:36 P.M. GMT." I double checked on my computer clock (also set to GMT, which, by the way, is really UTC; there is no GMT anymore) which read 1536. Then I looked at my watch which read 1036.

So what's the problem? If you're going to use A.M. and P.M. don't use leading zeros. I have my watch set to 24 hour mode and when I see 0336 GMT that's late at night for me and confusing. I don't even read past the digits.

If you're going to have the clock on UTC (which is fine with me; between ATC and ham radio, I've been functioning on UTC for more than 40 years) have it on 24 hour format, OR, drop the leading zeros on times < 1000.

Okay, my anal time rant is over. Flame away, folks.

Oh, by the way, the position of the "Preview Post" and "Submit New Thread" buttons are backwards from what they were on the Pond. I wonder how many of us are going to inadvertantly post a message when we only meant to preview it?

Now you can really flame away.

[Bob Lasley]

Let me buy you another cup of coffee, it's going to be a beautiful day. :cool:

Bob

[Ken Salisbury]

Sounds like something from:

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[Ken Salisbury]

Originally posted by Bob Lasley
Let me buy you another cup of coffee, it's going to be a beautiful day. :cool:

Bob You should have signed it like this:

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[Dave Arbuckle]

Ken, I might be the only guy left in North America on dialup. But, please, at least allow me to say that Bob and Rod signing with just the text was fine? :(

Dave

[Dave Anderson NH]

A computer geek with only a dialup connection at home? I thought I was the only one left in the world too cheap to spring for DSL. On the other hand, like you I have a great connection at work.

[Dave Hammelef]

Who needs time anyway. I would rather have a watch that did not run at least it is perfect 2 times a day.

My VCR at home gets the time signal over the local PBS station and its 4 min slow. I have 2 different VCR's that work this way and they agree there just 4 min slow. Talk about frustrating. ARRRRRRRRGH.

(So what does UTC stand for).

D a v e :rolleyes:

[Ken Salisbury]

Originally posted by Dave Arbuckle
Ken, I might be the only guy left in North America on dialup. But, please, at least allow me to say that Bob and Rod signing with just the text was fine? :(

Dave If you have slow load times because of pics and graphics you can use the "Text Only" (top left hand button)feature when you are in a hurry.

[Ken Garlock]

Don't ask why.

There is quite a science to time keeping. You can read about it at the home of NTP(network time protocol.) http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~ntp/

[Dave Arbuckle]

Ten bucks a month, Dave (Anderson). It's hard to argue for a faster line with der Budgetmistress against $10. ;) I think our connection at work is running 3.4Mb downlink, shared of course.

Dave (Hammelef), best of my understanding UTC stands for Universal Coordinated Time. Go figure... There is a 1:1 correspondence with the old GMT zone. All looks like Zulu to me.

Dave
Just one of the Daves...

[Rod Peterson]

> <i><font color="blue">So what does UTC stand for.</font></i>

<i>Universale Tiempe Coordinate</i>.

Or very near that. It's (supposed to be) French for Coordinated Universal Time. There may be some missing or extra letters in my rendition above. The French involve a lot of letters that aren't used and then use a lot of letters that aren't there. (just for fun, look up all the words that start with "K" in a French dictionary; it's a short list)

Yes, Dave, it is 1:1 with GMT (which is no longer an official term as I mentioned) and which is also 1:1 with Zulu time (which is not an official term for even longer).

Incidentally, the <i>Zulu</i> stands for the letter of the alphabet (Z or Zed, for our neighbours) that denoted that time zone. Somewhere there is a list of the other 23, and if memory serves, they're not all consecutively assigned, despite what one might expect.

And no, Dave, you are not the only dialup person left. I, too, am on it, although I did order (and received) the DSL kit. I've never successfully completed the installation. I'll have to get a rounduit one of these days.

[Dave Arbuckle]

Rod, the letters India and Oscar are not used. Too easy to confuse them as numbers.

I don't understand what you mean by not official. The last ATIS announcement I heard (granted, about fifteen years ago) used it, as I recall.

Dave

[Dave Anderson]

...who cares! The only thing I know for sure is that there are at least TWO "Dave's" in EVERY time zone that love woodworking!

(Gone to BP for a week so I need to get back on "count")

[Aaron Koehl]

Thanks Rod-

I've removed the leading zeros from the time format, since
there currently is no option for members to choose 24 hour formatting over 12 hour formatting.

If you're in Florida, you should be GMT minus 5 hours--
The setting is accessible from your user control panel right <a href="http://www.sawmillcreek.org/member.php?action=editoptions">here</a>.
(Under <b>Date/Time Options</b>)

I may have to put that on my list of things to do, however, for
those who prefer 24-hr formatting. :)

_ Aaron _

[Dave Hammelef]

Hey, Nobody told me why my VCR's are 4 minutes slow, or probably more correctly why is my PBS station sending out a time thats 4 min slow????

[Jim Young]

Originally posted by Dave Hammelef
Hey, Nobody told me why my VCR's are 4 minutes slow, or probably more correctly why is my PBS station sending out a time thats 4 min slow????

Magnetic rift around Novi causes a 4 minute time distortion.

[Robert Henderson]

(also set to GMT, which, by the way, is really UTC; there is no GMT anymore)

Mmmmm, Tell that to the Brits!



http://greenwichmeantime.com/

[John Longwitz]

...why can't this unorganized bunch of 'Merican civilians get with the rest of the world on date convention. It's 25 February, 2003; not February 25th, 2003. Our military got it straight many years ago but the rest of the country didn't fall in step. When we went to a new business system at work our parent company (Belgian) had to spend valuable (read costly) time converting us to our way of looking at dates. "Set in our ways" doesn't begin to describe it.

[Kirk (KC) Constable]

Listen...I can be just as anal as anybody, and more so about a lot of stuff that nobody else cares about...so I like to think I'm tolerant of others. But WHO CARES how the time reads? If it's a new post, read it. What difference does it make if it's Zulu or GMT or UPC or CST or EST or AM/PM or daylight savings time?!?

KC :o

[John Longwitz]

..as I seemed to indicate earlier, but some folks seem to as we're already well into page 2. Think it's a slow TV night

[Rod Peterson]

> <i><font color="blue">If you're in Florida, you should be GMT minus 5 hours-- The setting is accessible from your user control panel right here. </font></i>

Ha, ha, ha. As I pointed out, I've been living for 40 years on converting UTC. In fact, my computer is on UTC, so I wouldn't be interested in having the forum clock show local (plus there's that pesky DST to deal with when you select local) in any event.

I would be very much interested in a 24 hour mode option. If you were to look at my watch right now you would see it in 24 hour mode. In fact my computer clock is too, as well as any other clock that features it.

[Ken Salisbury]

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If you were me -- You would throw that watch away
Who cares what time it is anyway.
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[Keith Outten]

I have got to jump right into this one!!!

Dave A- I use dialup just as you do, its the only option where I live and I run an ISP.

I was in the Navy in the early seventies and I left military time behind me when I got my discharge. Give me the AM and PM any day.

The Brits can kep anything they have concerning measurement and metrics. I have a toolbox full of American standard wrenches, I have a pickup truck load of ANSI bolts nuts and fasteners and I'll keep buying them as long as they sell them in the hardware stores.

I will bypass any gas station that tries to sell me gas by the liter.

Set in my ways...you bet. Give me the old system any day.

I can deal with the metric system its just that when given a choice I'll go with what I'm more comfortaable with.

[Joe Suelter]

Well spoken, Our Fearless Leader! I laugh when I watch the guy on Food Network that's from England, I think. All his measurements are in grams, milliliters, etc... I think to myself, could somebody actually be writing this recipe down, heading off to the store to purchase 10.5 grams of confectioner's sugar? Probably easy to convert, but WAY to much thinking would be involved.

[Don Henthorn Smithville, TX]

Originally posted by Rod Peterson
Hey Keith, et al,


I wonder how many of us are going to inadvertantly post a message when we only meant to preview it?



Not too much of a problem, Rod, since editing is so easy and fast.

[Dave Arbuckle]

John Longwitz wrote: It's 25 February, 2003; not February 25th, 2003.

Why not go whole hog and convert to the method that actually makes sense, 2003 02 25. Note this is largest to smallest. Then write the time behind: 23 31 54 (also largest to smallest). Elegant.

I believe this date notation is used in some far eastern countries. Having spent a lot of time writing computer date arithmetic routines, the only thing I would welcome more is decimal time.

Dave ;)

[Aaron Koehl]

I am kind of partial to the Unix timestamp, though! :D

23 Feb '03 1:12AM = 1046221860.
Number of seconds since Jan. 1, 1970.

_Aaron_

[Bob Lasley]

"Does anyone really know what time it is?"

Bob

[Ken Salisbury]

Originally posted by Bob Lasley
"Does anyone really know what time it is?"

Bob
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