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[harry strasil]

Bow Saw -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/irnsrgn/wood/bowsaw2.jpg

Veneer Saw -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/irnsrgn/wood/frameveneersaw.jpg

Frame Rip Saw -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/irnsrgn/wood/frameripsaw.jpg

Old Womans Tooth Router-
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/irnsrgn/wood/router2.jpg

Tenon Router-
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/irnsrgn/wood/tenonrouter03.jpg

Parquetry - an example
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/irnsrgn/wood/box2.jpg
Jr.

[Mark Sweigart]

Harry,

Might want to add some pictures of what you are talking about, for the newbie's sake. Personally, I'm not sure what the difference is between a rip veneer saw and framed rip saw. Think I know what you are talking about on the other stuff though.

mark

[Dave Anderson NH]

Hi Junior, it seems like I haven't talked at you for almost 24 hours.:D

My personal feeling is that the old woman's tooth router is the most useful of the tools for the largest number of the folks here. Even the power tool folks will find it very useful for the many times when a corded router just can't do the job.

[Ian Gillis]

Hey Jr

Not to be fussy, but what about a veneer gang saw? I understand the principles, but I'm short on details.

Honestly, whichever route you choose to take, I'll be following and I'm sure to learn something.

Cheers

IG

[Ed Nelson978]

I voted for the crosscut saw, but I'd like the router as well and I'd love to learn parquetry. I feel like a kid-in-a-candy-story with you offering to teach us these skills!

[harry strasil]

Ian, I have never seen a real gang veneer saw, personally I can see problems with tensioning and spacing all the webs ( blades) evenly and it would be a two man saw and there is just me, so as I have no use for one and I don't plan on making one.

[harry strasil]

Ed, we will make the tools according to the votes they recieve. I enjoy making tools and if you can make tools you will never lack for tools to work with and can make almost anything you want. I look at things from a blacksmiths and machinists point of view as well as a woodworkers, so I think a little different than most people and I have a vivid imagination from being an only child with a strict mother. So I day dream of things to make and how it can be done. LOL

I very seldom draw anything up till after its done, that way I can improvise as it evolves.

[Pete Ducklow]

Can we vote for all of them?

On a side note, I'd love to see more photos of your tool chest. Perhaps some day, when you're sitting around with nothing to do, could you post some pictures of the insides?

Thanks

[Wendell Wilkerson]

Parquetry - especially the specialized tools you've made to size all the pieces

My second choice would be the tenon router

Wendell.

[Don Baer]

Harry,
I won't vote since I don't do much nieander work except for some hand planes, chizels and an occasional hand saw but I do enjoy learning the history and makeup of these tools. I am making a collection of this information so I can pass it along to my children and grand children. I feel that it is vital to the art of wood crafting to know where the roots of the craft comes from. Very few people know that the art of turning came from pottery and the first lathe were verticle. I would like to see something done on this aspect of wood working if possible but I will sit back at this point and learn.

[Brett Baldwin]

I voted for one but really I'll be watching for them all so have fun with your tutorials and know that they are appreciated.

[Alan DuBoff]

Harry,

I voted for parquetry, but was just interested in inlay in general. You posted a small table recentely which you gave to a minister/pastor/etc...I was curious how the inlay was done.

[Zahid Naqvi]

JR, I voted for the tooth router but as most said I am interested in more than one topic. How about after the voting is closed you drop the top tool and for the second round take a vote on the tools left. This way we will get to go through the whole list.

BTW how do you get hold of the hardware for the two routers. I could really use both the tooth and the tenon router, but can't see how I can get the hardware.

thanks for your continued contribution to our community.

[Bob Hallowell]

I vote for the crosscut saw but would be tickled for any of them,

Where would we get the blade? can we order them?


Bob

[harry strasil]

Mike W has graciously agreed to make some webs (blades) for the saws and Dave Anderson has agreed to sell just enough waxed cord to do one saw.

The hardware for the routers is easily made by hand with the aid of a drill, vice, hack saw, file, small propane torch and a 1/4 inch tap and die.

[Roger Charles]

I voted for the cross cut saw but the routers came a close second. I voted before reading your message about the hardware. Actually any of these projects will be great.

Roger

[Bob Hallowell]

Mike,
you better start production! I will take a blade.

Bob

[Philip Duffy]

Sure could use a couple of those right now as the Windsor chair work needs a couple. Or, how about making a spoon bit? Too hard? I would guess you need a forge for that one. The other one that comes to mind is how to properly adjust a spokeshave so that it does not clog with shavings. I can think of a couple makers, including one in black and yellow steel that could use this tutoril! Thanks, Phil

[harry strasil]

By the poll, the crosscut bow saw is the favorite, Mike W is going to make some 24 inch long 8ppi webs for those that want to make the saw for the next tutoral, so contact him if you want him to make you a web and if you want a different tooth configuration, let him know.

thanks Jr.

[Ben Mullin]

Two Questions:

1) Mike, do you have an estimated cost for the blades?

2) Harry, if you are feeling up to it, could you post just the basics about my personal choice, the tooth router. That is the tool I could use most in my arsenal and I may try to make one without a tutorial if I had a few more details. Specifically I'm curious about the blade and blade holding mechanisms.

Thanks again for your contributions.

Ben

[Mike Wenzloff]

Two Questions:
1) Mike, do you have an estimated cost for the blades?
...
Ben
Hi Ben and Everyone,

As soon as I get a total for the number I'll post a cost to each person. I'm trying to keep the cost as little as possible. So once I have a total, I'll let y'all know.

Take care, Mike

[Ben Mullin]

Hi Mike,

How about a ballbark? The budget is tight so I won't commit unless the price is, uh, cheap. But if I don't commit, I won't know the price...

Thanks,

Ben

[Mike Wenzloff]

Hi Ben,

If you were to be the only person or this was outside the tutorial, $25/ea. Once we break over 10 blades, the cost will be less, probably $20/ea. which includes shipping.

Take care, Mike

[harry strasil]

I need one Mike, 8 ppi, very little set please. minimum 2 inch wide. going to be my main saw for my demo trailer, already got a name for it, My Mike Saw.

[Larry Gelder]

Mike - Make mine like Harry's.

[harry strasil]

The Bow Saw and the Hand Router are tied for first. To give Mike a little time to make Blades, we will start with the Hand router first Next week.

So those interested start looking for a nice 2 inch thick piece of straight grained wood of your choice to start with.

[Jim Dunn]

Harry are you feeling up to this? Take it easy.

[Dave Anderson NH]

I'm in stock on the bowsaw twine Junior. I just have to figure out how much will be needed for each person who makes the saws. My own 12" bladed saws use about 11-12 feet with four wraps of the 100 pound test waxed twine.

[Mark Sweigart]

So those interested start looking for a nice 2 inch thick piece of straight grained wood of your choice to start with.

Any rough estimate on the other dimensions for the block? 4" x 8"?

mark

[Zahid Naqvi]

and I assume the tutorial will include instructions on how to make hardware, or is there an alternate way to acquire it.

[James Mittlefehldt]

Just a slight diverson off the path for a question.

I recently saw ina Canadian tire store two foot long replacement blades for miter box saws. they are about two inches wide, (didn't have a tape measure with me, and all of theirs were sealed in plastic).

I was wondering if they would be suitable for making a framed saw for resawing they had fairly fine, and I think the modern hardpoint teeth, but maybe too fine for that work? however they would serve as a ready made blade if useable.

Darn I am even thinking about making tools now, where is this going to end?

[harry strasil]

I have a couple of 16 point crosscut bow saws for finish work, the blade would be good for that

[Bill Moser]

Junior -
I didn't vote, but I was excited to see the tenon router! I've never
seen one before. I've figured out by trial and error how to mill a reasonable
tenon with a block rabbet and careful marking, but this looks like a time
saver to me. I'm gonna screw a piece of MDF onto the bottom of my
miller's falls #77 router and try it out. Is the "tenon router: and old idea,
or something you thought of?
regards,
Bill

[harry strasil]

I guess it was something I came up with when doing a bunch of tenons several years ago, anyway I have not seen another like it yet.

[Bill Moser]

Jr- that tenon router idea needs wider airplay (maybe FWW tips?).
Unfortunately, I had to learn everything (which is miniscule) that I know
about woodworking from books and trial&error. There is good information
on dovetail joints out there (Ian Kirby has a great one), but the world is
strangely silent on tenons (mortises being relatively hard to screw up).
I like the older "how-to" guides from 1900 or so, where the advice is just
"cut to the line". Yeah, right, but practice on about 1 million board feet
of lumber first!
regards,
Bill