Hey John Miliunas-Captive Rigs

[Keith Burns]

Since Mark was afraid to show you his captive hollowing set-up I'll show you mine. The "D" Handle was made by a friend (who will remain nameless) from 3/4" dia. steel . The scraper bar attachment cam from Don Pencil and works well. I also have the Jordan boring bar which I really like. The secondary "captive" rest I made out of 3/4" oak with 3/8" steel rods embeded to help it slide easily. There are basic plans for this at Craft Supplies site. Think you can find it under Jamision. I'm working on a laser attachment but still a couple of weeks befor it is done. This is one of those things that after you get it, you wonder how you ever lived without it. Makes hollowing so much less stressful on hands, wrists and arms.

[Mark Cothren]

First of all, Keith... we know you don't have any friends...

Secondly, that D-handle sure looks a lot like mine.....;) :D

[John Miliunas]

Keith, thanks very much for the sampling!!! Much appreciated! :) So, going by what you show, the secondary captive rest can be constructed primarily of wood, huh? Interesting! I wonder if I'd be able to get away with that on my Vega, as I have a 24" swing??? I guess that maybe the upright portion of it may have to be some heavier duty steel, due to the length from the base to the captive rest. I'm also going to have to figure something out to extend the "bed" of this thing out further to actually utilize a captive rig, as there is only a total of 16" of bed and even much less after you figure in the arbor and chuck! :rolleyes: Thanks again. Obvious research needs to be done on my part! :) :cool:

[Andy Hoyt]

John - Think of that other lathe you have which has what(?) ten years of settled sawdust on it by now.

A captive rig really wants a nice long bed.

[John Miliunas]

John - Think of that other lathe you have which has what(?) ten years of settled sawdust on it by now.

A captive rig really wants a nice long bed.

Yeah, I know, Andy. Thought of that, as well but, that poor little thing hardly has 1/2hp of motor on it with a min. speed of 600 rpm. :( I imagine it would be OK for small stuff and to learn on. :) :cool:

[Keith Burns]

First of all, Keith... we know you don't have any friends...

Mark, I forgot. Sorry....................:D

John, I am by no means an expert like some others. As far as the captive rig it is constructed totally of wood (except for the 3/8" rods). As far as construction for a 24" swing I'll let others who have 20" swings chime in on how they built theirs. You would have to come up with some type of an extension/base for sure. The boring bar is 16" long and the handle will add another 18" or so to the length so you will definately be out past your existing bed.

[Andy Hoyt]

Yeah, I know, Andy. Thought of that, as well but, that poor little thing hardly has 1/2hp of motor on it with a min. speed of 600 rpm. :( I imagine it would be OK for small stuff and to learn on. :) :cool:

Probably would be just fine. Besides, the cutter's are so small that I can't imagine they'd grab anything significant enough to stall it out.

But on one of them mustardarizers it's a whole 'nuther story:D

[Jim Ketron]

John you could make something that attached to the Vega lathe bed to extend it! all the back rest does is to keep the cutter from torquing along with the D-bar, Travis has done this with his Jet Mini.
So that should not be a problem.;)
I have a few ideas on how it can be done

[Travis Stinson]

John, Craft Supplies sells a secondary rest designed for shortbed lathes.

http://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/cgi-bin/shopper?preadd=action&key=279-3333

Or, like Jim said, make a bed extension for the rear rest yourself. The one I made for my mini works great.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c213/tstin27/DSC02285b.jpg

[John Miliunas]

John you could make something that attached to the Vega lathe bed to extend it! all the back rest does is to keep the cutter from torquing along with the D-bar, Travis has done this with his Jet Mini.
So that should not be a problem.;)

Yup, exactly the possibility I'm looking into! :) The way the tailstock attaches currently on to the lathe, gives me a 3-point (3 attachment holes) area on which to work off of. With my being on "injured reserve" for the last few weeks, I'v been looking over my shop area and have decided to move lathe-related equipment around a bit. I'm now keeping an outrigger option in the design concept and think that I might even have enough room to put some type of leg on the end of it to help stabilize it! :) :cool:

[Frank Chaffee]

John,
Keep collecting the ideas and I will help with any metalworking required.

‘Might need one myself some day.

Frank

[John Miliunas]

John,
Keep collecting the ideas and I will help with any metalworking required.

‘Might need one myself some day.

Frank

Thanks, Frank! Yeah, you just might need one some day yourself!!! :D :cool:

[Frank Chaffee]

John,
It doesn’t look very difficult to extend the bed of your Vega for the loads a captive HF rig would put to it.

Frank

[Vaughn McMillan]

...‘Might need one myself some day.

Frank
Funny how a week's worth of time can sure change one's outlook, huh? ;)

Thanks for the pics, guys. I see one of these in my future somewhere down the road.

- Vaughn

[Dale Thompson]

Obvious research needs to be done on my part! :) :cool:

Hey Spring,
To make something on your lathe, you may wish to mount some wood on it. :cool: You have recycled those handfuls of chips from your neighbor's chainsaw so many times that I am starting to recognize some of them! :) :)
Personally, I like that shapely little number with the long tail!! :cool: ;) :)

Hey Bud, I'm glad to hear that you are getting better. I hope that your ordeal will help you treat me a bit nicer than you have in the past ;) :)

Dale T.

[Dale Thompson]

John,
It doesn’t look very difficult to extend the bed of your Vega for the loads a captive HF rig would put to it.

Frank

Hey Arena old buddy how are you doing? :) Whatever, why would anyone want to take the advice of a liberal? :confused: Maybe you have been snuggling up with Ann too long! Regardless, I'm hoping that you are having a GREAT summer!! :) :)

Dale T.

[Bart Leetch]

John

Yep them mustardarizers are real wieners.

A one armed two legged funny paper hanger errrr I mean spinny mustardarizar operator. So whats it like to run a weiner?:eek: :eek: :eek: :D

[John Miliunas]

Well, Bart, this particular mustard color mo-chine, is quite capable of taking your arm off, ifn' you ain't careful!!! :eek: 500+ pounds sitting on well under 2 sq/ft. of floor space, with a 2hp motor! It's got a 24" capacity and one 'o these days, I'll try making something bigger than 9 or so inches!!! :rolleyes: :D :cool:

[Frank Chaffee]

Hey Arena old buddy how are you doing? :) Whatever, why would anyone want to take the advice of a liberal? :confused: Maybe you have been snuggling up with Ann too long! Regardless, I'm hoping that you are having a GREAT summer!! :) :)

Dale T.
Thank you my dear friend Pesh for gracing we Creekers with your most highly esteemed presence,
However, due to your prolonged absence from this watery place and the likelihood that many here are not aware of our ongoing tete a teet, please allow me a moment to clarify whom you are referring to when you say “Ann”.

Creekers, the “Ann”, Dale is referring to here is Ann Coulter, my new consort and protégé, not Ann Miliunas, the daughter of my dear friend John whom I have known since she was a child and who is now the nurturing mother of baby Madison.

Welcome back Dale!

Yours Always,
Frank

[Bill Grumbine]

Hi John

As a fellow Vega owner, I have a couple of things for you to think on regarding a captured hollowing rig. First of all, Vega makes a bed extension which bolts onto the ways where the tailstock bolts on - and no, you can't bolt the tailstock onto the extension and make a longer lathe, at least not without an awful lot of work on your own part. They are not cheap either, but they are sturdy.

Secondly, you could probably make something out of wood or metal that you could bolt to the lathe which might serve just as well. The torque arrestor only serves to keep the tool from flopping around, and as has been mentioned, a lot of people have made them out of wood. There is no reason why the whole thing could not be made from wood as well. I would build it with some adjustability in it since sometimes you are going to want that, but I think you should be able to put something together which would do very nicely.

Good luck with it.

Bill