SAW TABLE (Bench) Tutoral Part 1

[harry strasil]

SAW TABLE (BENCH) TUTORAL by Jr. Strasil


Saw Tables - This is what the tutoral is on.

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Tools needed for this tutoral.

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The board on the left is what I am going to use for the top of my bigger saw bench. The board on the right is the one I have already started for my trailer shop, the ends and sides have already been prepared.

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Before we go any farther I am going to type a bit on the normal specs for what we would call a saw horse. 4 foot long, 2 foot tall, the legs splayed out 10 degrees and splayed to the front and back 10 degrees. the top was usually left up to the builder as to if it was on edge, flat or what width.

We are only going to be interested in the 10 degree splaying of the legs for stability.

Remembering that we are going to be using this bench to sit on and work 2 foot tall is too tall. It should be a little taller than a normal kitchen chair so your thighs have a slight downward angle for comfort. I prefer 20 inches for my benches as that is comfortable for me, you will have to decide the height you want it to be. It should be wide enough to set on comfortably for at least a half hour but not so wide that it puts pressure on your femoral artery and causes discomfort as you are going to be setting astride. Length is up to you also, just leave the board at least 1 1/2 inches longer to facilitate cutting the tapers on the ends.

The dovetails for the legs don't have to be any certain degree, but I like 10 degrees. you can use whatever you want. To set your bevel square at 10 degrees, use a scrap board and mark a line across it at 90 degrees, then put another mark an inch from the first one, measure in from the edge 5 1/2 inches and put a mark on one of the lines. Set your bevel so it lines up with the outside edge of one mark and the 5 1/2 inch mark of the other mark. Save this scrap in case something happens to move the bevel blade.

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[harry strasil]

Determine which side of your board is going to be the top and using the preset bevel square, scribe a line on the edge of one end so the bevel will slope out from the top side and a short distance in from the end so the scrap doesn't break off when you are sawing.

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Using the framing square and the scribing knife, scribe a line across the top side of the board. Cutting from the front you will not have any tearout on the topside when sawing.

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Notice the short piece of candle and the bit of beeswax in front of the saw. I always put a little wax on my saws when making long cuts so the saw glides thru and doesn't bind.

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Clamp the board in your bench vise and using the scribed lines saw on the waste side of the mark as shown. You will need to mark the edge bevel on the other end on the opposite edge so when you turn it over to saw the other end the bevel mark will be on the top side. This shows the set up for a right handed person.

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[harry strasil]

Clean up the tapered end cuts with a block plane held at an angle and finish with a sanding block and remove the feathers on the edges. And I hope Mr. Murphy of Murphy's Law fame is not helping you like he did me, I cut one taper one way and the other end the opposite so had to resaw one end. LOL


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Now with the Jack Plane set a little Rank, start planing on the top edge checking with the bevel square till its close.

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Finish up with the Fore or Jointer set fine and keep checking with the bevel square till it suits you.

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You now have all four sides tapered and the next step is laying out the legs for cutting.

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I hope you are with me so far.

[Jeff Horton]

Yea, I am with you but can I offer a suggestion? Well I am going to anyway. :)

Could you start by telling us what we/you are going to do first? It too me a while to realize we/you were making the top. Maybe it is just me but it helps me knowing which piece you making.

[harry strasil]

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=39586&page=2

[Jeff Horton]

I guess I wasn't clear. I meant what part you were starting on/building. You jumped in with how to build it and I had no idea if you were starting with the top, a leg a stretcher or what. Had to get about half way through before I was sure this was the top.

Other than that I think it was good! Look forward to building one... no two.

[Bob Noles]

Harry,

Great tutorial and I love the pictures. This makes things so easy to follow and provides so much inspiration to working with neander tools. Sometimes we miss out on so much by not making something the old fashion way every now and then. I am going to follow this thru it's entirity and attempt to make one exactly as you have been so kind to provide the instructions for.

Thanks for taking the time to share your experience and knowledge with us in this manner.

[harry strasil]

I been offered the use of an online chat room one day a week that is used only one day a week by the site. This could be utilized to answer questions in a live type environment, if bench builders would like to do so.

[Bernhard Kühnen]

Harry,

very nice photos. Please allow me one question. On one of the pictures I see a skew plane. Is it the #140 Stanley? Next question (and now you realize that I am a beginner:) ) why didn´t you use a low angle block plane?

Thank you

[harry strasil]

No, its not a stanley, its a stanley 140 copy, a miller falls 07 I believe. It was already out of the tool box so I just grabbed it. LOL

[Bernhard Kühnen]

Thank you Harry

[harry strasil]

I revised this a little in an attempt to clarify it some.

We do learn as we go along don't we!

[Mark Rios]

Okay, I've got my two tops cut and planed. I'm making two cause I figure I can use the practice. :D

[Larry Gelder]

Harry,

Good job on Part 1. Chomping at the bit for Part 2.

Mark Rios was playing possum on us all along ... he's got two benches in progress!

[Mark Rios]

Hey, I'm just trying to watch my place and not get in the way of you real woodworkers. I fully appreciate you folks putting up with me and letting me play. :D

I still don't have any of the planes that I purchased on ebay. The one I mentioned earlier still has never come nor have I gotten any response from the seller. WHAT A FLAKE!!! Now I have to go through the ebay and Paypal process. That guy is a major toilet head. THe other two are on their way, responses prompt from the other sellers.

Anyway, got off track.....I went to HD to get a bigger plane than my 60 1/2 and found a "Buck Brothers Jack Plane". I figured that if I tuned it up real good that it should work good enough. Well, it was maybe just barely good enough. (I hate good enough BTW). The skinny blade steel was about a 25 on the hardness scale. :D Sharpened fast and dulled even faster. I tried and tried to get the chip breaker to mate flat, working it and working it but it also was VERY thin and junky material and never worked very well. When I tried flattening the sole, pieces of the crap metal kept coming off and I had to stop and pick the tiny chunks out of the stones and paper. Eventually, I just quit wasting my time with it.

I finally got the edges planed and then promptly took the plane back. I don't want to ever see that thing again. I should have known better but that's what my amateurness and my boneheadedness get me I guess.

:D :D :D

[Deirdre Saoirse Moen]

These setbacks happen, you know? I felt that way about the hickory I was using on my shaving horse. Gave it away because I hated working with it. Got some maple instead.

[James Mittlefehldt]

Your not a bonehead Mark we have all done stuff we wondered about after it happens. I bought the Lee VAlley low angle spokesahve when it first came out and do you think I could get that thing to do anything.

THen while reading an article on spokeshaves in FWW lately a light came on I sharpened it, set it, properly this time as it turned out and now it is just fantastic. I was too worried about looking dum to take it back to Lee Valley so I kept it till I figured it out.

We all do stuff like this, and no one here judges others for that.

[Mark Rios]

Thanks for the encouragement James.

As an update to my last post, I finally called the guy at his home. His wife answered and I explained who I was and what I was calling for. She said that she would call her husband and tell him that I called.

Well, it turns out that he actually DID send it. He just NEVER looks at his email for any type of communication. He tracked it and told me that it was to deliver today..............and it did.

So............I retract and apologize for my calling him a flake. He's just unorganized, we'll say.He didn't answer either of my six emails. Anyway, I got it. My first of three.

[Jeff Horton]

Mark in cases like that, I will leave positive or neutral feedback (depending on many things) but I will state Poor or in your case NO communication so the even if I leave postive feedback so the next person knows. I wish everyone would leave honest comments in the feedback. I might choose not to deal with that person even if it is all positive. Communication is important to me.

[Mark Rios]

Yeah, I agree. In the item description, this is the whole thing:

Up for auction is a hardly used Stanley hand plane. The blade probably needs sharpening and there is some mild oxidation on the side that should clean up easily.

No reserve on this

This plane has been used ALOT. The iron was upside down (bevel up) and there was wood jammed under the cap iron. Lots of wood dust/chunks. The plane is older (not necessarily a bad thing), Bailey No. 4 Made in Enaglnd, with painted plastic handles. The rear handle is cracked halfway through at the bottom front part (I'm sure you know where I mean. Probably common). It is NOT hardly used.

Negative feedbck is definately warrented.