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Christopher Pine
03-20-2006, 4:43 PM
Anyone direct me on the net perhaps to help in findiang a way to run some fairly old software on my windows xp system.. I run all kinds of other emulators etc to run games etc.. I wan to run late 386 early 486 software... Games like Red Baron, pacific strike, doom 2 etc... if this is possible which I can't hardly belive it isn't... Challenge maybe but I know it has to be possible..?

Thankyou!

Chris

Joe Pelonio
03-20-2006, 5:12 PM
Try this for some tips, but we found that most of our old games and other
software would not work on xp so we tossed them along with the old 95/98 computers.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/games/expert/durham_og.mspx

Ian Abraham
03-20-2006, 6:10 PM
Otherwise you can probably get an old Pentium computer that someone is throwing out for nothing (get a couple for spare parts ;) ) and just play your old games on that.

Cheers

Ian

Steve Clardy
03-20-2006, 8:34 PM
Couldn't you just load win 98 in a seperate folder, then load the games and run them? Curious

Ken Fitzgerald
03-20-2006, 8:40 PM
One other thing you might consider.


Some of the equipment I maintain uses software that was written in DOS and an emulator won't accurately run the software.

The solution:

We bought one of those USB memory sticks to use as a disk drive. We loaded DOS and the programs we need to run on that USB memory stick. XP sees it as a removeable drive.

We turn on the computer; stop it and tell it to boot to the USB memory stick. Run DOS and run the programs we need.

Then we shut it down and reboot to XP.

Don't know if it'll work in your application but a thought.

I bought a 256 MB memory stick for about $24 IIRC.

Joe Judge
03-20-2006, 9:27 PM
1-
or ... maybe you could install VMware (virtual machine software) and install win98 or dos into that virtual machine.

I run linux sometimes, under vmware, on WinXP


2-
You can also use Partition Magic (or similar program) to repartition your hard drive -- freeing up enough space for a DOS partition. Install DOS there, and have your machine dual-boot
Boot into XP .... reboot into dos to play games.


3-
Boot from DOS on a floppy? If you had your games on a FAT32 partition (under WinXP), then they'd be visible to the dos diskette.
You could run them off the hard drive, booted off the floppy

--joe

Jim Becker
03-21-2006, 12:46 PM
Any software that tries to write directly to hardware is not going to work under XP. There are alternatives as shown by the other replies...keeping an old PC around isn't a horrible one, either, and is easier and less technical. And if you keep that machine off-line, you don't need to worry about any virus or security issues...gaming only.

Kevin French
03-21-2006, 4:00 PM
You may not be aware of it but there are two basic types of table saws, the Microsoft compatible and the non-Microsoft compatible table saw. The Microsoft compatible saw is by far the most predominate type. However, the non-Microsoft compatible table saw is a technically superior machine.

The non-Microsoft compatible table saw possesses intuitive controls, smoothly operating accessories, a highly polished table surface, and an extremely powerful motor. The reason that you may have never heard of the non-Microsoft compatible table saw is because the manufacturer is extremely inept at marketing their product. WARNING! Do not make any disparaging remarks about non-Microsoft compatible saws or the company that produces them within earshot of their owners; the owners are rabidly loyal to their tool.

The Microsoft saw always exhibits some major technical flaw. For example, you cannot move the rip fence more than 8.3" away from the blade. Because of this fundamental flaw, you must become extremely ingenious at ripping boards to widths larger than 8.3". However, it is very easy to forget where you put these boards.

To start the Microsoft compatible saw, you must push the green start button; the saw blade will slowly come up to speed and be ready for use approximately one to two minutes after startup. This time is somewhat dependent on the number of jigs you have in your shop. This condition is marketed as the "Very Soft Start" feature and has become the accepted norm in the industry.

With each new version of the Microsoft saw, the woodworking magazines praise it's new features ignoring the fact that the non-Microsoft compatible saw has had these same features for several years. New technical features are introduced such as being able to raise and tilt the saw blade and move the rip fence all with power applied! (as if you would want to do that anyway). Current magazine articles would also have you believe that the requirement to switch your electrical outlets to a different plug type is an enhancement. At this point, you may start to wonder if all of the woodworking magazines are secretly owned by the Microsoft table saw company.

You can purchase numerous jigs for the Microsoft saw. They are expertly marketed and beautifully packaged and the woodworking magazines always write glowing reviews of these products. After you have purchased several of these jigs you notice that the initial versions never work as advertised. Also, the jigs have adjustments or features that are disabled or fail to work at all and often are missing key components. The jig manufacturers are fiercely competitive and vie with one another to provide you with jig features that you will never use, (even if they did work). You must purchase several upgrades for these jigs to get them to perform adequately, each iteration costs you $50 to $150.

The Microsoft compatible table saw company produces two versions of table saws; the Contractor-9X and Cabinet-NT versions. The Contractor-9X model is designed primarily for consumers who are willing to put up with electrical and motor seizure problems. The Cabinet-NT version is more robust and intended for commercial applications. It is much less likely to trip a circuit breaker when cutting ordinary lumber than the Contractor-9X version. It should be noted that not all jigs will run on both versions of these saws.

The Microsoft saw has other problems as well. Periodically, the jig using the miter gauge slot seizes up for no apparent reason, this ruins the wood being cut and can possibly damage the blade. After several unsuccessful attempts, and even though the motor has nothing to do with the miter gauge slot, you must take the motor out of the saw, then reinstall it into the saw. Afterwards, the jig using the miter gauge slot will work properly, -- until it happens again. Also, the longer you use the Microsoft compatible saw, the slower it will become. The rate of this decline is directly proportional to the number of jigs you have used with the saw and the amount of lumber cut with it.

To turn the saw off, you must push the start button, before power is removed from the motor, a large light will begin flashing prompting you to push the start button again if you wish to turn the saw off. It takes about one minute for the saw blade to stop rotating. If you have neglected to lower the blade before turning the saw off, you will not be able to retract it at this point.

Every six years you will need to buy a completely new Microsoft compatible saw. The main reason you need to purchase a new saw is because your present saw will not cut any of the NEW wood. Incidentally, you may not be able to cut any OLD wood with the new saw. Even though the new saw is advertised to be 100% compatible with all of your old jigs, this will not be true; you will be forced to buy or make ALL new jigs for the new saw. Furthermore, even though the new saw motor rpm is ten times the speed of the previous saw, you will not be able to cut wood any faster nor will it make you any more productive, in fact, it may be a little slower. The woodworking magazines will seem completely oblivious to this phenomenon.

One year after buying your Microsoft compatible saw, you will be able to sell it for about 50% of what you paid for it originally. In two years, you would be lucky to get 25% of the original price. Three years after you bought the machine, you probably won't be able to even give it away.

Cliff Rohrabacher
03-21-2006, 5:06 PM
Google DosBox

OK I'll do it for you
http://sourceforge.net/projects/dosbox/

J.D.Redwine
03-21-2006, 8:08 PM
Thanks for the DosBox. Going to see if I can get a Spanish lessons cd that was for 3.1 and W95 to to work properly on my XP machine.

Christopher Pine
06-01-2006, 2:33 PM
Quoteing previous post : Every six years you will need to buy a completely new Microsoft compatible saw. The main reason you need to purchase a new saw is because your present saw will not cut any of the NEW wood.

I know I risk starting a riot.. and being called all kinds of names under the sun... but the non microsft saw never was able to cut 80% of the woods in the first place...especially the game woods.

Kevin French
06-01-2006, 3:56 PM
YA'but just remember:

MAC users swear BY their computers.

PC users swear AT them.

IF the Non-mighty soft doesn't cut 80% of the wood, "especially the game woods", and we still swear by them, maybe those woods aren't important enough to cut.

Curt Harms
06-01-2006, 4:40 PM
I'm contemplating a larger H.D. for my notebook and purchasing partitoning & boot manager software. At startup, I could select between various flavors of Windows, various flavors of ?nix, DOS, whatever runs on Intel hardware(Mac OS soon?:rolleyes: ). There are various commercial programs available. I am however contemplating BootIt Next Generation from Terabyte Unlimited. I'm using another program from this company-Image for DOS/WIN and it has worked well.