Router Lift Advice Needed

[Rob Will]

My employee "WC" will make me boss of the week tomorrow if I can hook him up with the best way to put a router under his 50" UniSaw table. (Biesemeyer fence) He does not have the router yet so you can design this from scratch.

Any router and lift suggestions or websites that I can pass on?

Thanks,
Rob

[Gilbert Vega]

Porter Cable 7518 and Jessem Mast-R-Lift.

[Cecil Arnold]

Pick your router that will fit a woodpeck lift.

[Dave Falkenstein]

Woodpeckers, previously mentioned, offers numerous excellent choices:

www.woodpeck.com

[Bill Fields]

Budget?

$150--$500?

Bill

[Mike Hollingsworth]

Milwaukees don't need a lift.
mount it in the table and raise it from the top.
I got my bench dog too early.

[John Keane]

Woodpecker.com has a new router lift called the "QuickLift". I have one and it works like a champ. I also have their PRL with a PC7518. It also works great, but the raising and lowering is not as easy. Same essentials in both lifts but the QuickLift is more responsive. Woodpeckers has a weekly e-mail of specials. This week the special is QuickLifts.

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Budget?
$150--$500?
Bill

How about $300?

Rob

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Very helpful indeed.
I think we have a PC 690 that came with the X5 Unisaw deal.
Thanks,
Rob

[Saul Harris]

I have had a JessEm Mast-R-Lift for several years now and it was OK until I got my hands on my Jointech SmartLift last year. Digital display to show how high the bit is in thousandths of an inch or non-digital and use the analog dial. At the shows, they sell the digital for $400 and the non-digital for $270.

They are shipping the new ones with an automatic locking mechanism.

My two cents...

[John Lucas]

And another way:
http://www.woodshopdemos.com/sstat-10.jpg

There are many pages with step by step for this installation.

http://www.woodshopdemos.com/ss-p3-13.htm

[Thomas Walker]

Hey Saul, How about a full review of the SmartLift. The Jessem and Woodpeck lifts get mentioned a lot, but nobody has much first hand knowledge about the SmartLift.

How was installation, adjustment, quality, ease of use. How is it better than the Mast-R-Lift? Is the digital actually useful, or more of a gimmick, etc. ?




I have had a JessEm Mast-R-Lift for several years now and it was OK until I got my hands on my Jointech SmartLift last year. Digital display to show how high the bit is in thousandths of an inch or non-digital and use the analog dial.

[CPeter James]

I have the big Milwaukee and love it. No separate lift is required. It is mounted to the end of the the table on my PM66. One thing to consider if you do go this route it do NOT mount the router square to the fence,but turn it 45 degrees to the fence to get the hole for the height adjustment tool out where you can get at it.


http://members.localnet.com/~cpjvkj/router.jpg

CPeter

[Mack Cameron]

Any router and lift suggestions or websites that I can pass on?

Check this site out www.routertechnologies.com (http://www.routertechnologies.com). Saw it at the WW'ing show in Toronto, Ont. Canada. Works from the top of the router table. Beats any lift I've seen to date, and I've seen most of them.

Price ? $199.00 CDN funds

[Dick Bringhurst]

I started out with the Jessem Rout-R-lift. There was too much "lash" in the height adjustment system. You had to turn the crank some before any height change started. You can work around it ok, but it was a pain. I got the woodpecker PRL and have been happy as a clam every since. I use a PC 7518 in it. Dick B.

[Saul Harris]

The SmartLift is a slick tool (in my never-to-be-humble opinion). I have the JessEm Mast-R-Lift. It is a timing belt-driven tool. The guide bars are plated steel so expect some surface rust over time. Fortunately, the bushings in the carriage are bronze.

Basically, the SmartLift is an engineering fix to the majority of the problems other lifts have. The top plate (integral to the lift) is machined cast aluminum. The guide bars are not guide bars; they are stainless steel rolled thread lead screws - three of 'em - at exactly 120 degrees to each other. They are 16 pitch threads so one full rotation of the handle is 1/16" of movement of the carriage.

The leveling feet are wide so vibration will not have an effect on the lip of your router table - whether it is MDF, phenolic or whatever you made your table from. Also, the levelers can be accessed from the bottom of the table so no more lifting the 30+ pound lift/motor assy up and having to tweak the levelers. If case the plate is not fitting tightly into the openeing, there are two 'snuggers' on adjacent edges of the top plate to tighten the lift up in the opening. It is a standard (if there is any such thing anymore) 9.25" x 11.75" plate with 3/4" corner radii.

The carriage accepts the same router most of the lifts accept - the P-C 7518 motor (P/N 75182) without the handles. It will also accept the other fixed-base routers (P-C 690 & 890, Bosch 1617 & 1618, DeWalt 610 & 618, Makita 1100 & 1101). All of those routers are either 3.5" or 3.75" diameter motors and an adapter sleeve is available to make it fit the 4.2" opening in the carriage.

The drive assembly is a sealed unit, permanently lubricated utilizing glass-filled polycarbonate ring and spur gears with thrust washers to eliminate backlash. Jointech is now shipping the units that have an integrated locking mechanism that will prevent the carriage from moving at all under operation/vibration.

The digital and non-digital versions of the lift are identical except for the electronics and if you buy the non-digital version, it can be upgraded to the digital version by buying the digital upgrade kit and installing it yourself. The unit is already tapped for the installation of the kit.

It comes with three (3) interchangeable insert rings with 5 more available separately.

Now that I have used the digital lift, I will never go back to a non-digital lift of any flavor. I can do the test cuts with a dovetail bit, record the height of the bit, and easily time after time go back to the exact setting without ever having to do another test cut to check to make certain it is right. When making dadoes or rabbets, if I need the depth to be 3/8", all I have to do is zero the height of the bit and crank it up until the display says 0.375 and I know it is EXACTLY 3/8" high. Stepped rabbets ... not a problem. Just so much time is saved with the digital lift. I get things done more quickly and much more accurately than before. It makes me look good (if that was even possible).

I think I covered everything...