V sander- questions for a newbie-

[andy Needles]

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I was looking into building a 30" v sander for rustic table tops, and small pieces also. You input would be most appreciated. <O:p</O:p
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So, my questions are as follows:
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It looks as though the cost of building such a unit would be about $450 or less. Is this correct?

Where would you recommend that I get a ½ HP motor, and what am I looking for? I can run either 220 or 110. Will the motor run too fast for the unit and need to be stepped down with pullies, or do they come standard? What RPM motor am I looking for?
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Should I use the pillow bearings for ease of installation? I suspect so.
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If vacuum dust collection pretty much a must for such a unit? I suspect it is.
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I assume this unit will divot material if you stop while feeding it. If so, how much of a problem is it? How many passes do you need to clean a divot up?
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Any other thoughts would be most appreciated-
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Andy Needles: www.dovercanyonrustic.com (http://www.dovercanyonrustic.com)
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[tod evans]

welcome andy! what is a "v" sander? tod

[Michael Ballent]

First of all, welcome to SMC...

I am not sure what a "v sander" is but I can maybe help with some of your motor questions. Most motors in WW equipment are TEFC (Totally Enclosed Fan Cooled) just to keep the dust out of the windings in the motor. Most of the motors run 1745 RPM or 3450 RPM all these can be adjusted with various pulleys to either speed up and slow down the speed. They are also induction motors for the most part since they are expected to run for many hours. You can also get a DC motor if you want to have variable speed, but that introduces a whole other set of challenges.

DC is absolutely required, sanding machines will fill up a shop very fast with fine dust that will do a number on your lungs.

There will be others here that will be able to help you out further. :D

[Steve Clardy]

Welcome Andy!!!
Like tod, you got me on the "v" sander.:confused:
Fill us in.:D :D

[Scott Parks]

Welcome, Andy

I believe what he is trying to describe is a table mounted drum. Such as the "sand flee", etc.
http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=7887

[andy Needles]

The DYI kit can be obtaind from stockroom supply and it is a tabletop drum sander mounted horizontally flush with the table top. It uses velco (V) to keep the sanding strips attached.

Anyone out there used one of these units?

[Steve Clardy]

Ok. Seen one at the woodshow last year. Didn't pay much attention to it though.

[Don Baer]

Andy,
The current issue of Shop Notes has a how to build a thickness sander. It might give you some ideas. It's powered from a table saw but I'd just buy a 1 HP 3450 RPM Moter from Harbor freight If I were building one.

Here a link.

http://www.shopnotes.com/main/sn86-toc.html

[Don Baer]

And heres one that is a 30" surface sander that used velcro as you discribed.

http://www.nicks.ca/Toolkits.html#sander1

Heres one that uses Hose clamps to attach the paper

http://blackcreekstrings.homestead.com/Sander.html

and this one uses "duct tape" to attach the paper.

http://www.southwestsegments.com/drumsander/

Good luck and I hope this helps.

Oh one more thing, Welcome to the creek.

[Mark Singer]

I have some rough "v" 's and it wood be great to make them real smooth...then there are the abrasive "A"'s also:confused:

[Todd Davidson]

After the day I had I could use some really smooth zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz's

[Dwayne Payne]

http://www.onlinewoodshow.com/demos/stockroomsupply/videos/drumsander.php

https://www.stockroomsupply.com/Sanding_Info.php

Check the above links for more info on V Drum sander. I saw it last year at the WW Show in Houston. I got a motor from work and plan to buy the kit this year at the upcomong show. As far as motors or bearings. Look at Grainger, McMaster Carr or even Harbour Freight. I think they recommend a 1750 RPM motor. As for divots....NO. If it is adjusted properly it will not create divots in your wood. I was also impressed that it kept the saw dust down in the box. You can either open and use a shop vac to clean out or setup dust collection.

Hope this hels some.

Dwayne

[Frank Pellow]

I have the 18" V-drum sander kit from Stockroom Supply and plan to get around to making the portable case (plans available at thier web site) "one of these days".

I have seen the sander in operation at a couple of Woodworking shows and was quite impessed.