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Rick Breininger
05-15-2024, 6:17 PM
It seems to be in good condition. There is a crack in the bottom right corner of the table Runs good. Has a 2HP motor set to use 220v. I plan to replace the switch for motor with a newer one with the off paddle. It's missing the motor cover. I would like to find one, but I guess that's pretty much impossible. I plan to get a Biesemeyer fence on it and extend the table.

Bradley Gray
05-15-2024, 7:09 PM
you could make your own motor cover:519823519824

Bill Dufour
05-15-2024, 8:41 PM
I would keep the switch and just add a remote station(s) with the buttons of choice. Most of those big paddle switches are just on off switches and you lose the safety features for both you and the motor.
Bill D

Tom M King
05-15-2024, 9:40 PM
Mine is a newer model that was also missing the motor cover. I made a wooden box that holds a slide in 12x12 furnace filter that serves as the air intake for the DC. Not to filter the incoming air, but to keep stuff from getting thrown out. Close off the bottom of the base, the air gaps between the top and the base and cover the blade tilt slot. My motor never gets warm and the DC works great. No dust settles on the motor since the air is drawn in over it. I can cut MDF inside a finished house and not get a spec of dust on anything with a 3hp DC close by. There is an overarm pickup too.

At first I just used blue tape over the tilt slot, but switched to magnetic sheets of synthetic rubber to make it easy to change.

Michael Schuch
05-16-2024, 12:53 AM
I have owned a Powermatic 65 for 30+ years. It has been an excellent table saw. I have a Vega fence on mine but a Biesmeyer fence should also do an excellent job.

Considering the age of Powermatic 65 saws I would inspect the arbor bearings and motor bearings and possibly replace them. If the bearings are original they are getting awfully old by now.

I have been told the the Powermatic 66 model strengthened some of the internal castings... but I have never found any weaknesses in my 65.

Carroll Courtney
05-16-2024, 4:55 AM
Tom, maybe sometimes post pic of your filter setup. Rick and myself would love to incorporate your idea into our saws. My motor is always cake with dust. Rick that be your last saw you will ever need. They last lifetime, just have keep dust down to minimum including control box. Don’t know how dust gets in there but it does. Congratulations, PM is built to last.

Tom M King
05-16-2024, 7:50 AM
Picture has been here a long time, so it's easy to find in my gallery. It's not a Powermatic, but they were made very similarly back then. This is my jobsite saw, moved with a loader. The front door on the bottom was missing when I bought it off CL, so that's where I pull the DC air out of. It's done a Lot of work since then. The overarm guard cost more than I paid for the saw. I thought I might end up changing where I was pulling the air out from, but it's absolutely never been in the way so I haven't bothered.

6" flex hose to the DC never far away is moved to cover the table saw and jointer only when they are used. Really not that much trouble and not worth the trouble in temporary setups to run enough ductwork to bother with gates. 3hp DC gets all the dust, no exaggeration. After using this setup, I say less than 3hp is wishful thinking.

I have since taken that router wing off. It made too much mess.

Cameron Wood
05-16-2024, 11:37 AM
Now that's a jobsite saw!


Nice Powermatic saw. I also wouldn't replace the switch, but then I probably wouldn't replace the fence either...

Bill Dufour
05-16-2024, 11:49 AM
I do not think that is a switch. Turn on the saw and unplug it while running. wait 10 seconds and plug it back in. See if it starts up or not. Probably easier to just flip the breaker on and off. If it restarts you probably just have a simple switch.
If not you have a contactor and likely overloads. possibly a transformer for low voltage controls.
Bill D

Rick Breininger
05-16-2024, 7:12 PM
519896I took the top loose to get a better look and it appears that there is no way to access the belts. They are totally enclosed by a housing. I don't see any way to remove them from the motor shaft.

Patty Hann
05-16-2024, 7:24 PM
Picture has been here a long time, so it's easy to find in my gallery. It's not a Powermatic, but they were made very similarly back then. This is my jobsite saw, moved with a loader. The front door on the bottom was missing when I bought it off CL, so that's where I pull the DC air out of. It's done a Lot of work since then. The overarm guard cost more than I paid for the saw. I thought I might end up changing where I was pulling the air out from, but it's absolutely never been in the way so I haven't bothered.

6" flex hose to the DC never far away is moved to cover the table saw and jointer only when they are used. Really not that much trouble and not worth the trouble in temporary setups to run enough ductwork to bother with gates. 3hp DC gets all the dust, no exaggeration. After using this setup, I say less than 3hp is wishful thinking.

I have since taken that router wing off. It made too much mess.

*Temporary thread hijack*.. Tom, what is that ply(?) box on the right side of the cabinet?

Tom M King
05-16-2024, 7:40 PM
It’s a right tilt saw. Motor box would be on that side. Please read my earlier posts in this thread.

Tom M King
05-16-2024, 7:45 PM
If you want to move a lot of air you need a large inlet.

Tom M King
05-16-2024, 7:47 PM
I like to pull the inlet air over the motor.

Patty Hann
05-16-2024, 8:12 PM
I see... thanks

Cameron Wood
05-17-2024, 12:50 PM
519896I took the top loose to get a better look and it appears that there is no way to access the belts. They are totally enclosed by a housing. I don't see any way to remove them from the motor shaft.


http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/655/837.pdf

For #66 but should be similar process.


Here's someone who replaced the contactor with a different switch.

http://vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=6246

Bill Dufour
05-18-2024, 11:21 PM
Link belt. Even horrible fright carries them.
Bill D

George Speed
05-18-2024, 11:41 PM
Nice!. Wow, SW Wyoming. The older I get the more I wonder about people,places and things. :)

Jack Frederick
05-19-2024, 11:25 AM
When I picked up my old Unisaw it was missing the motor cover and the lower front door. I knocked together a cover for the motor that was ventilated but not filtered. I cut the DC into the back/bottom of the saw and fashioned a tempered hardboard ramp from front down to the back and side ramps to funnel the duct down. I taped them in place. With a ventilated front cover it kinda carried the dust back. It worked out well as there was very little accumulation in the base.

Tom Bender
05-20-2024, 7:24 AM
Nice score. That's an awesome manual. Matched belts are important and should be ordered from a belt supplier, not an auto parts store or big box store. If the existing ones are ok they will last a long time.

Rick Breininger
05-20-2024, 1:47 PM
Is there a special size wrench to change the blade on the PM65 or PM 66 or did they just use an adjustable wrench?

Bill Dufour
05-20-2024, 9:42 PM
Two Horsepower? One modern vee belt should be fine. They are much improved since 1930 when this was was designed, 96 years ago.
BillD