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Brian Runau
05-09-2024, 7:51 AM
Looking for ideas to attach a table top to the base on an outdoor dining table. Thought to use stainless steel figure 8's, but I can only find ones that are @ 7/17" overall length which is way to small. Normal steel units are 1.3" long. Table has a 5' wide frame with a 35" marble insert and a 3" leg with a 1 0r 2" overhand, so I am unsure I can use a corner brace to screw up through. I saw some stainless angle I might be able to use. Appreciate any suggestions on how to do this. Thanks. Brian

Jim Becker
05-09-2024, 9:08 AM
See if you can find SS Z-clips as an alternative. They would require small slots cut in the inside of the aprons, but effectively do the same thing as the figure 8s. Folks with a Domino often use that for the slots but there are other ways to cut them, too, including just running a groove full width with a saw or router. You could also us SS mending plates if those are available...just grind the corners round if you wish.

Prashun Patel
05-09-2024, 9:11 AM
Google "Table top buttons". I've used this method a few times. You can use stainless steel screws to attach them. You need an easy way to route the slots though.

I use a Domino.

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Jimmy Harris
05-09-2024, 9:13 AM
You can also make your own with blocks of wood. Just make sure to elongate one of the holes to allow for expansion.

There are lots of ways to skin this cat. Figure 8's are just probably the easiest. Not necessarily the best.

Bill Dufour
05-09-2024, 11:29 AM
I thought they used to be brass? Not brass plated.
Bill D

Lee Schierer
05-09-2024, 11:54 AM
Try these. Figure 8 (https://www.amazon.com/Pack-Figure-Steel-Desk-Fastener/dp/B07QPT53W4?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A3Q1UUVFSJSK66)

Bill Dufour
05-09-2024, 11:58 AM
There was a thread about the correct name of this hardware in the last few months.
AFAIK most Simpson hardware can be ordered in stainless. Or just buy SS strap and cut /drill to need.
Bill D

Michael Burnside
05-09-2024, 1:57 PM
I've used these on an outdoor table, they're galvanized. Personally not fond of figure-8 for table tops. Jim also mentioned how to install if you have a Domino.

https://www.amazon.com/Table-Fasteners-Screws-Heavy-Solid/dp/B08C2MDLNB/ref=sr_1_8?crid=105M2L3925JOX&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.u3L_YKL5kMyWkh9ZyJrDdcj4a1yTLXNg1 UpiHhsERwl8IKwnoFocNEtmkUfdwxpc_9dKDAugdJojJLndi-awmg-xo31s7o2ynTpLQaWn2kRElra69NzHRUE-FyS7HMb9TK6_lsxoMiI-cXBxYgzsN1mTh-L6gyhO8UpMq7XWspN6ujKcumJN9aSRldHe9pnK7hYh3CPf4wov B3nQtcHSe7lIMPu7NFSMfAgO7SV0noeALb5yXyIulKh51wCyet W1BL3SSmBILZ7Wr6Tlc5msURa4rxQjMS53GqkGYBxuQMs.kLOK GMnO46ffPreRNcorRlZ1K4l5IS_dv5OsXqm4RQQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=z-clip&qid=1715277183&sprefix=z-cli%2Caps%2C164&sr=8-8

Brian Runau
05-09-2024, 4:17 PM
Try these. Figure 8 (https://www.amazon.com/Pack-Figure-Steel-Desk-Fastener/dp/B07QPT53W4?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A3Q1UUVFSJSK66)

Concerned how steel will hold up outside, rust staining the wood. Thanks

Brian Runau
05-09-2024, 4:17 PM
See if you can find SS Z-clips as an alternative. They would require small slots cut in the inside of the aprons, but effectively do the same thing as the figure 8s. Folks with a Domino often use that for the slots but there are other ways to cut them, too, including just running a groove full width with a saw or router. You could also us SS mending plates if those are available...just grind the corners round if you wish.

Thanks. Brian

Brian Runau
05-09-2024, 4:18 PM
Google "Table top buttons". I've used this method a few times. You can use stainless steel screws to attach them. You need an easy way to route the slots though.

I use a Domino.

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Thanks brian

Richard Coers
05-09-2024, 4:58 PM
Concerned how steel will hold up outside, rust staining the wood. Thanks
put a couple of paint on the steel.

Brian Runau
05-10-2024, 7:07 AM
put a couple of paint on the steel.

Now that's a thought. Thanks brian

John Kananis
05-10-2024, 10:33 AM
I remember reading a fww article about this method a long time ago. I've used it several times - good solution.


Google "Table top buttons". I've used this method a few times. You can use stainless steel screws to attach them. You need an easy way to route the slots though.

I use a Domino.

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Myles Moran
05-10-2024, 10:36 AM
My favorite part about using the table top buttons is I almost always have a 1" wide scrap from a project, and they're a good use of that material instead of just adding it to my offcuts bin.

STUART Robertson
05-10-2024, 3:02 PM
If your base frame is already assembled a biscuit jointer,if you have one, can cut the slot where you require it for z type table top fastners.
Fastners are usually zinc plated,you could use an additional zinc rich paint and once dry an additional coat of something like CRC Soft Seal.
Aluminum angle cleats with oversized holes for the top fixing with a stainless screw on a washer to allow movement?