Rocks in their heads

[Edward Weber]

https://www.ktnv.com/news/park-rangers-looking-for-two-vandalism-suspects-at-lake-mead-national-recreation-area

What the ____ is wrong with some people?

[Brian Runau]

Sad. Brian

[Frank Pratt]

That reminds me of an incident several years ago where a couple of guys (Boy Scout leaders, no less) toppled a large rock off its perch in Goblin Valley. What an example to set.

[Patty Hann]

That reminds me of an incident several years ago where a couple of guys (Boy Scout leaders, no less) toppled a large rock off its perch in Goblin Valley. What an example to set.

Yep... a link to that incident is provided in some of the stories about these two losers.
Happened in Utah...guys were caught and prosecuted....scout leader was ejected from the BSA (in Utah, at least)

[Jim Koepke]

Guys like that may have exes who will be glad to identify them.

What kind of dim whit (a different description comes to mind) wants have their mark on history be the damage they have wrought?

jtk

[Bill Dufour]

They should get prison time with hard labor breaking up rocks into gravel for forest pathways and roads. They kinda already volunteered didn't they.
Poor example for the little girl with them. Who ran the video, the son or the wife?
BilL D

[Patty Hann]

They should get prison time with hard labor breaking up rocks into gravel for forest pathways and roads. They kinda already volunteered didn't they.
Poor example for the little girl with them. Who ran the video, the son or the wife?
BilL D
'Zactly my thought.

[Edward Weber]

+1
My immediate thought was, "so you like rocks do ya?"
I hope they give them the maximum penalty for this.

Sadly it seems, this has become some sort of trend or I'm just reading about more awful people these days.
These guys, the Boy Scout guy, The Sycamore gap tree, not to mention the Redwood poachers.
Just makes me sick

[Stan Calow]

As I recall the righteous scout leaders who did this in Utah thought they were doing a good deed by making the trail safer. Maybe the motivation of these new jerks will come out to be the same. In which case education has failed us again.

[Alan Rutherford]

... Who ran the video, the son or the wife?

According to the BBC website tonight: "A hiker in the US has recorded two men pushing rocks from an ancient formation in Nevada...."

That video is getting some play. It was on ABC News with David Muir last night. BBC.com today. Those guys are toast.

[Jerome Stanek]

To bad they closed the Rock that would be a good place for them

[Edward Weber]

They just keep coming
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68848098

[Tom M King]

Unfortunately, as the population grows so does the half that's below average intelligence.

[Patty Hann]

They just keep coming
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68848098

I'm not a vindictive person, but I do wish the mama bear had been close by.
That would have been a video worth seeing. In fact, the only thing left intact would have been the phone.

[Edward Weber]

Unfortunately, as the population grows so does the half that's below average intelligence.

Thanks for the laugh, I needed that :D

[Tom M King]

Sadly, it’s not a joke.

[Jim Koepke]

I'm not a vindictive person, but I do wish the mama bear had been close by.
That would have been a video worth seeing. In fact, the only thing left intact would have been the phone.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/155178594356918

Oops! Didn't realize this needs a facebook account to view.

It is a funny little skit where a young woman drops something and a young man picks it up to hand to her.

He notices her necklace and asks where she got it. She says her best friend gave it to her when they were kids, but he disappeared on a hiking trip, most people think he may have been eaten by a bear.

The necklace is of cat shaped like half a heart. The young man reaches inside his shirt and pulls out the mating half. She looks at him with wide eyes and questions, "Kevin?" He says, "no, I'm Jay and I found this in a pile of bear poop. Your friend Kevin definitely got eaten by a bear, that't crazy."

jtk

[Larry Edgerton]

This always has been, but it accelerated sharply during Covid and shows no sign of slowing down. People from the city that belong in the city. They are entitled, rude and generally pigs and do not understand anything about nature. They are still their city selves, not even seeing what is there, and annoying anyone who are quiet and respectful of others. I live in the middle of a 280k acre state forest, and it has changed. I doubt it goes back. These people do not belong in the forest.

Don't even get me started on the side by sides...........

[Edward Weber]

The hits keep on coming
https://www.cnn.com/travel/bison-injures-man-yellowstone-arrest/index.html
At the very least, we can blame some of the behavior on alcohol in this case

[Edward Weber]

Teaching Moment?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-teens-seen-viral-video-dumping-trash-ocean-boat-turn-rcna150686

[Doug Garson]

Teaching Moment?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-teens-seen-viral-video-dumping-trash-ocean-boat-turn-rcna150686
The fact they turned themselves in is a positive sign, hopefully the prosecutor and judge will consider this and their sentence will be limited to community service cleaning up the ocean or beaches. I doubt they were sober when they dumped the trash cans.

[Doug Garson]

This always has been, but it accelerated sharply during Covid and shows no sign of slowing down. People from the city that belong in the city. They are entitled, rude and generally pigs and do not understand anything about nature. They are still their city selves, not even seeing what is there, and annoying anyone who are quiet and respectful of others. I live in the middle of a 280k acre state forest, and it has changed. I doubt it goes back. These people do not belong in the forest.

Don't even get me started on the side by sides...........
I was born and raised in a city and have resided in cities all my life. I have enjoyed time outside cities including wilderness canoe and kayak camping trips, back country hikes etc. I strongly disagree with your rude generalization of people from the city. @holes come from everywhere not just cities.

[Larry Edgerton]

I was born and raised in a city and have resided in cities all my life. I have enjoyed time outside cities including wilderness canoe and kayak camping trips, back country hikes etc. I strongly disagree with your rude generalization of people from the city. @holes come from everywhere not just cities.

I said "People in the city that belong in the city". I did not say all city dwellers.

[Patty Hann]

I said "People in the city that belong in the city". I did not say all city dwellers.

Extra! Extra! Read all about it! Town mouse and country mouse facing off, almost come to blows! :D

[Ron Citerone]

I was born and raised in a city and have resided in cities all my life. I have enjoyed time outside cities including wilderness canoe and kayak camping trips, back country hikes etc. I strongly disagree with your rude generalization of people from the city. @holes come from everywhere not just cities.


Doug you are exactly right here. It is a rude generalization no matter how cleverly the semantics are worked.

[Tom M King]

There are differences though. Our driveway is big enough for any size horse trailer to easily get in and out with plenty of parking, and has even handled semi-trucks once in a while. Over the years, we've seen hundreds of different cars and vehicles pull in mostly with people picking up puppies. There are no marked parking spaces.

Where are the people from that pull in and are so obviously confused about where is a good place to park without the lines? More than a few can manage to park where it blocks everything up with no room for anyone else to get by. Now I can understand if it's a rental car, which is no small percentage of the total, but if it's a freshly detailed car with numbers and letters on it like AMG, M6, etc., etc., I doubt these are rental cars. I don't think these people are even used to being out in the country. It's not unusual too for some to have a hard time backing up with I'm sure backup cameras in the fancy cars.

Sorry to get off topic, but I just decided to throw this in here. It's always entertaining to us.

[Edward Weber]

The fact they turned themselves in is a positive sign, hopefully the prosecutor and judge will consider this and their sentence will be limited to community service cleaning up the ocean or beaches. I doubt they were sober when they dumped the trash cans.

You always make me laugh, turned themselves in, seriously?
There is a video recording of them in the act, it's not as if they can deny it.
Nothing more than a bunch of spoiled rich kids doing something stupid on someone else's boat.
IMO, It's just a lack of respect all around, for the environment, other boaters, the law and themselves.
They're lucky the Coast Guard didn't catch them

[Doug Garson]

You always make me laugh, turned themselves in, seriously?
There is a video recording of them in the act, it's not as if they can deny it.
Nothing more than a bunch of spoiled rich kids doing something stupid on someone else's boat.
IMO, It's just a lack of respect all around, for the environment, other boaters, the law and themselves.
They're lucky the Coast Guard didn't catch them
My point was putting them in jail for a few months does little to undo the harm they did and would cost the taxpayers a few thousand dollars that could be better used elsewhere. If they are spoiled rich kids a fine will have little impact on them or the environment. Having them spend a couple hundred hours cleaning up beaches would. What would you propose an appropriate punishment would be?

[Doug Garson]

I said "People in the city that belong in the city". I did not say all city dwellers.
Mmmm, your actual post said "People from the city that belong in the city." But in either case, it is a difference without a distinction. A reasonable response to my post would be an apology not an attempt to pretend you didn't insult a few hundred million people from cities.

[Dave Zellers]

IMO, a silly over reaction to what Larry said is developing.

[Patty Hann]

My point was putting them in jail for a few months does little to undo the harm they did and would cost the taxpayers a few thousand dollars that could be better used elsewhere. If they are spoiled rich kids a fine will have little impact on them or the environment. Having them spend a couple hundred hours cleaning up beaches would. What would you propose an appropriate punishment would be?
I can think of a few...
Public flogging, stocks, T and F... you get the idea.

[Doug Garson]

I can think of a few...
Public flogging, stocks, T and F... you get the idea.
And how that would undo the harm their stupid act did? My thinking is that the consequences of getting caught should not be limited to being punished, it should include a requirement that the perpetrator must undo the damage they did. If they spend the next 52 Saturdays removing garbage from beaches or parks for 8 hours, they will feel punished and they will have undid, at least some of the damage they did. If the right people are assigned to supervise them, maybe they can instill in them, a respect for the environment they obviously don't have now. If all you do is publicly flog them, all you will do is turn them into angry young men, no lesson learned.

[Patty Hann]

And how that would undo the harm their stupid act did? My thinking is that the consequences of getting caught should not be limited to being punished, it should include a requirement that the perpetrator must undo the damage they did. If they spend the next 52 Saturdays removing garbage from beaches or parks for 8 hours, they will feel punished and they will have undid, at least some of the damage they did. If the right people are assigned to supervise them, maybe they can instill in them, a respect for the environment they obviously don't have now. If all you do is publicly flog them, all you will do is turn them into angry young men, no lesson learned.
Mr. Doug.... please go to https://sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?308476-Rocks-in-their-heads&p=3312454#post3312454
But flog them first...they won't soon forget it.

[Tom M King]

I wonder if their parents owned that 3/4 million dollar boat.

[Dave Zellers]

Idiotic acts by teenagers will never go away. But I agree- there needs to be a harsh punishment. A hefty fine and weeks and weeks of cleaning up the environment somewhere.

A fine hefty enough that phase two of their punishment is their parents telling them "We're not paying this, you are. Get a job"

[Jerry Bruette]

I think that because the parents are responsible for the care and upbringing of the juveniles maybe they could join them for the next 52 Saturdays cleaning up beaches and maybe even take some classes about the environment.

[Bill Dufour]

I wonder if their parents owned that 3/4 million dollar boat.
If so then it should be confiscated and sold since it was used in the crime. They do that for drug dealer cars don't they?
Bill D

[Tom M King]

I was worried the last time we had a real estate appraiser for the county come through driving a Porsche SUV with a magnetic sign on the door, but was relieved to find out it was a confiscation from a drug arrest. My first thought was, "This can't be a good sign".

[Doug Garson]

I wonder if their parents owned that 3/4 million dollar boat.
Maybe the boat should be seized and sold at auction.