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Jeff Clode
02-25-2024, 10:30 AM
My wife and I went to neighbor’s house for dinner last night and they related a story of their (very fancy, high end) oven in their previous house apparently spontaneously turning on to “broil” in the middle of the night. They were awakened by the smell. Technician came out and pronounced everything was “fine” and posited perhaps a power surge or some such…..(made me think about the recent thread on SMC about the Rigid table saw starting up with a bump on the fence……)
Anyone here ever heard of such an occurrence???
Jeff

Stan Calow
02-25-2024, 12:21 PM
Wow! Everything "fine"? I'm imagining that happening while they were out of town. We have surges often.

Bill Howatt
02-25-2024, 12:33 PM
A little Googling shows this does happen and can be caused from power surges, bad sensors, flakey switches - in other words, typical electronic causes.

Jim Becker
02-25-2024, 1:34 PM
My Café induction range is "pretty darn smart", but it requires multiple steps to start up the oven for any setting. I believe they did this on purpose to help reduce the possibility of some "non human" even causing a start. even the app is limited in that respect.

Mike Soaper
02-25-2024, 2:24 PM
"(very fancy, high end) oven"

If it was Wi-Fi/internet connected I guess there was a "remote" chance that it was hacked.

Lee Schierer
02-25-2024, 2:53 PM
Some new dishwashers are connected to the internet. If you have one, you can turn it on from anywhere. I wonder how many have been hacked.

Stan Calow
02-25-2024, 3:27 PM
Yes, and if you can believe my newsfeeds, those smart appliances can hog an awful lot of your bandwidth even when not running.

Jim Becker
02-25-2024, 3:50 PM
Some new dishwashers are connected to the internet. If you have one, you can turn it on from anywhere. I wonder how many have been hacked.
The only appliance we own that is not connected is our new dishwasher that I just installed. It was supposed to be a connected appliance but after receiving two damaged and being without for over a month, I opted for my second choice that could be delivered next day...and it's not a connected model. No big deal.

Bill Dufour
02-25-2024, 3:51 PM
Bluetooth. ovens, hvac thermostats, water heater, fridges a etc are all being sold today. These can be turned on/off. up/down from your phone anywhere in the world. I suppose they can be hacked.
Bill D.

Jim Becker
02-25-2024, 4:35 PM
Bluetooth. ovens, hvac thermostats, water heater, fridges a etc are all being sold today. These can be turned on/off. up/down from your phone anywhere in the world. I suppose they can be hacked.
Bill D.
The risk of hacking is largely with the company running the app. Not 100%, but close to that. I find the connected features to be quite valuable.

Frederick Skelly
02-25-2024, 6:36 PM
I had the oven come on by itself - the element simply powered up one night. Saw the glow and said WTH? The manufacturer replaced it at no cost. Said it was some kind of internal failure. Scary.

Maurice Mcmurry
02-25-2024, 7:08 PM
I just changed the light bulbs inside a built in double oven for a charming 92 year old widow lady. The ovens are where she stores her cat food. I turned the circuit breaker off and said a few things about fire hazards while I worked. After turning the circuit breaker back on I said a few more things about fire hazards. She said "It is so nice to see the Kittys food supply again"

Jim Koepke
02-26-2024, 12:51 AM
Some new dishwashers are connected to the internet. If you have one, you can turn it on from anywhere. I wonder how many have been hacked.

It is difficult for me to image why one would want to be away from home to turn on the dishwasher. Our 15 year old dishwasher is quiet enough that I run it in the morning while Candy is still in bed asleep.

Many years ago my mom used to put Sunday dinner in the oven and set the clock on the stove for start time and finish time. The stove would come on while we were at church and dinner would be mostly done when we got home.

jtk

glenn bradley
02-26-2024, 5:33 AM
I’ve never wanted to turn my dishwasher on from somewhere else. What’s the attraction?

Jim Becker
02-26-2024, 9:07 AM
Forgetfulness? Allowing some other thing to complete its work first? Each person would have their own reason to use or not use a feature. My primary like for these connected devices is that they let me know when they are done doing something, such as the wash, so it doesn't sit "out of sight; out of mind" and when the oven is pre-heated, etc. I don't remote control these appliances. I do remote control the front door when Professor Dr. SWMBO forgets to lock it... ;)

Jeff Clode
02-27-2024, 9:23 PM
I wanted to close the loop on this for any who might be interested. I spoke with my neighbor for further details and the oven was not internet connected (or capable) so hacking or similar interwebs sorts of issues don’t seem likely. I think Bill Howatt nailed it in his post early on when he described it as likely due to one of the “typical electronic causes”.
So now, depending on my level of paranoia, when we travel, I might just flip the stove breakers as well as turn off the water…….

Malcolm Schweizer
02-28-2024, 7:10 AM
I suspect the cause of the oven coming on is moisture in the pressure sensitive buttons. I had a stove get ruined that way. I’ll never again buy one with the pressure sensitive switches.

I bought a washer/dryer during the pandemic when options were limited and so I got the fancy one that texts you when it’s done. I thought that was so dumb until I set it up. I’m that guy that will forget a load of laundry for days. It’s nice to have a reminder. I love it when I’m out and get a text and I say, “Oh, it’s just my washing machine saying hello.”

Jim Becker
02-28-2024, 10:01 AM
I bought a washer/dryer during the pandemic when options were limited and so I got the fancy one that texts you when it’s done. I thought that was so dumb until I set it up. I’m that guy that will forget a load of laundry for days. It’s nice to have a reminder. I love it when I’m out and get a text and I say, “Oh, it’s just my washing machine saying hello.”
I resemble that remark... :D :D