Rockwell Delta 34-395 saw, worth keeping?

[Tom Yaegle]

I bought one at an online auction sight unseen. About 3 hrs away so I never went to see. Hauled it home today bigger than what I was thinking. Just looking for experiences or opinions on this. I have a 10" now and thinking this should do every thing and more.515801515802Here is my 10" and I would remove the fence and put it on the 12" saw. Problem is I no longer have the old fence from the 10" and the one on the 12" will not work well.515803

Thoughts? Bad idea? Or is BIGGER better?

[Tom Yaegle]

Hauled this home also515804

[Mel Fulks]

In an employment there was one I had to use at times. Lot of shops have several of them . I suggest buying all the spindles sizes if
available. You can buy knives or grind your own . The knives were all thin , which made the grinding easy .

[Maurice Mcmurry]

Neither of those are worth keeping. You should give them to me. : )

[Andrew Hughes]

I think you might like cutting wood with a 12 inch blade.
You might like it so much never want to go back to a 10 inch saw. That’s what happened to me. My saw will cut 4 inches above the table. I’m not a professional cabinet or professional anything so I can go a year or more before the blade needs sharpening.
Good Luck

[Bill Dufour]

What size arbor is on that 12/14 saw? Is it a stub arbor that can be switched out? Some guy on the bay was making replacement spindles to order for about $180. Some some one has a nice write up on adding a riving knife to that saw.
Be aware the belt spacing on the drive pulleys is not a modern standard.
Bill D

[Bill Dufour]

https://sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?133210-Delta-34-350-12-14-quot-riving-knife-retrofit

https://sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?306964-Delta-12-14-alongside-sliding-saw/page2

Note, all? the threads on the arbor stuff are lefthand threads.
Bill D.

[Tom Yaegle]

What size arbor is on that 12/14 saw? Is it a stub arbor that can be switched out? Some guy on the bay was making replacement spindles to order for about $180. Some some one has a nice write up on adding a riving knife to that saw.
Be aware the belt spacing on the drive pulleys is not a modern standard.
Bill D
I do not think it has a stub arbor that can be switched. It is a 1"

[Tom Yaegle]

I am still on the fence but leaning towards keeping it. I have a friend who will want it if I pass. Plan to wire it up tomorrow and fire it up.

[Andrew Hughes]

That’s a good idea to get it running and make some test cuts. Hopefully you have a good blade that meant for a tablesaw.
Dont forget to tilt it @ 45 and see if she can make clean rips. Thats a often over looks quality of a good tablesaw clean 45 rips.
Good Luck

[Dave Cav]

The Delta 12/14s are great saws. I had one for a number of years and the only reason I got rid of it was I got a 12" x 8.5" slider. The extra real estate is nice. Most of them are three phase, and the Brett Guard might indicate that it came out of a school shop, as that's the only place I have ever seen them. The only minor drawback is that the blade is set a little farther back from the front edge than on a normal 10" saw, but it doesn't take long to get used to.

The shaper is a Delta Heavy Duty, and is only heavy duty compared to little benchtop shapers and router tables. They normally run 3/4" tooling but 1" spindles are also available. They aren't really big enough to run 1 1/4" tooling. That being said, they have been used to make millions of windows and cabinets.

[Larry Edgerton]

A 12/14 is one of the few tools that I miss. Had one and a PM66. When I bought a slider I had to make room and kept the 66, smaller and left tilt. Was a great saw, worked well with a feeder.

[Tom Yaegle]

Thanks to all. After reading comments and links above I went to the manual and it does have a stub arbor.515843 I reached out to the school to see if they have one to run dado blades. I need to figure out the fence situation now.

I know the shaper is light duty but, I got lucky and it came with 1/2" 3/4" and 1 1/4" spindles. Now I wish it had the router collet also.

[Bill Dufour]

Grizzly made a copy of that saw. They no longer do and have no parts support anymore. There is no good source of stub arbors except used or the guy on ebay making new ones. If he is still doing it. A simple enough job for a machine shop to make.
Bill D.
Link is the guy I bought my arbor from on the bay. I think he makes them to order. I would ask for a one inch arbor price and see what he says. That is what I did. cost was the same.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/166043324615?itmmeta=01HQ8TGGGX6Y0RHWVQ5G0AA8SA&hash=item26a8f410c7:g:E3EAAOSweM5kQZCW&itmprp=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8AE6z6Tc5DseFmI1K1967PIF5ItS5 %2FOIbWH3%2FN%2BEDGk4ZE30%2F87MZ7BYmVCbCZMxxs7vEjO zxuadq936y5VilBZzEYRq0cvr0XazGLArPuQXWIdoOB0hTT8%2 B9nHJCBEsVES7IpcPnQ6HM%2F1Q%2F8Ovc67D%2FsWIDhSrfY% 2BUxq382bPtOgHdazAamdNhBnD5Rdtxr5ggV8oUhkWuEVBS0Dm IyzzrKE7pgb7EVCW3en2lnmPKw1ZXYIWeb5rnmtYhS7bXSCloE HxqQdCzeEmUJZnhXf3T0WWMF--3ViytV0auTYF7F%2B5std3IR0wAhmQywwueIQ%3D%3D%7Ctkp% 3ABk9SR8aIwpq6Yw

[Bill Dufour]

My saw was about 50 years old when I got it. It was scary the amount of torque to unscrew the stub arbor. I am sure it had never been removed since the factory. Now it is a pretty easy job.
Bill D

[Bill Dufour]

My saw was about 50 years old when I got it. It was scary the amount of torque to unscrew the stub arbor. I am sure it had never been removed since the factory. Now it is a pretty easy job.
I had to use an impact hammer and long ,homemade, pin wrench to start it moving.
Bill D

[Tom Yaegle]

Thanks Bill. I see the one on fleebay and reached out to him. He does have the long 1" one also. I did not ask to get a price yet. Mine came off with the spanner and a 12" cresent.

Making a rolling base for it now and I plan to leave the factory fence on it for now also. The fence slides great and is very sturdy, so will it a chance.

[Bill Dufour]

I unbolted the plinth which drops the saw 5". Then I made a rolling base which raised it back up 5". Does your plinth have the dust hose port? It can be moved around so it aims the way you want.
Bill D

[Mike Cutler]

Thanks to all.

I know the shaper is light duty but, I got lucky and it came with 1/2" 3/4" and 1 1/4" spindles. Now I wish it had the router collet also.

There used to be a place to buy router adapters for the Delta Shapers, and have the cartridges rebuilt.It was A&E ToolE-Store, but I can't seem to find the website now.There is a listing for a Facebook page, but I don't have a Facebook account, so I can't tell if it's the same store. If you have FB, it may be worth the look for you.
I didn't know there was a 1-1/4" spindle for the Delta HD shapers. I have 1" spindle, but it's part of an integrated cartridge assembly. I do run 1-1/4" cutters on mine, with Tee adapters. I do it because there are more cutters available in 1-1/4" than 3/4", and the resale is better for the 1-1/4" cutters. No one really wants 3/4"cutters.
The 1/2"spindle can be adapted to run a circular saw blade for deeper tenons. There are bushing adapters you can buy to go from 1/2" to the 5/8" circular saw hole size, or you can buy the 1/2" to 5/8" wheel arbor adapters for Toro Lawn Tractors for a lot cheaper and make your own. Use rip blades.

Nice finds on both machines.Me personally, I would keep that Tablesaw. ;)

[Tom Yaegle]

Mike, Thanks for the information. Yes keeping the saw made a base for it. I also plan to keep the fence on it, it is plenty stout. It also slides like it is on rollers, it works so well now that I monkeyed with it. I will try the fence before I part ways with the 10".

[Bill Dufour]

Tom, I have the dust chute from the Plinth. If you pay shipping I can get it to you. I think it goes to 4" round duct. It sticks out at least 10 inches. Fairly heavy metal.
Bill D.
95355 Zip code

[Bill Dufour]

Some shapers the taper is a standard like a morse taper #3. If it is something standard your can buy an off the shelf ER collet holder on a taper shank and use that for router bits. You will probably have to make a custom drawbar from all thread.
Bill D

[Tom Yaegle]

Tom, I have the dust chute from the Plinth. If you pay shipping I can get it to you. I think it goes to 4" round duct. It sticks out at least 10 inches. Fairly heavy metal.
Bill D.
95355 Zip code Yes I am interested in the dust chute. Mine opening is 12" wide and 4 3/4" high. If yours will fit I would like it. I am in PA 16365

Thanks,
Tom