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Tom M King
12-18-2023, 10:35 AM
I found the inventor sells directly on ebay for half the price it goes for in other places. My back is not getting any younger, and I will have more to set, so I ordered one. I was never quite satisfied with the guesswork involved in setting one anyway.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/225905781890

John Ziebron
12-18-2023, 11:06 AM
Nice present Tom. I know those toilets aren't getting any lighter as we age.

But I have to admit my first thought when I saw the picture was for a new product. I know they have living room chairs that tilt up to help a person get up and figure with an accordian tube connection why not have a toilet that does that.:rolleyes:

George Yetka
12-18-2023, 11:06 AM
We bought one 20 years ago not exactly the same for a job we had setting 60 toilets or so. As I recall the field guys didnt like it or use it and it went in the dumpster. Though they were probably younger and dumber. I was the same. There isnt much guesswork as much as lower back pain. For floor mounts I set it and tighten it down then give it a good sitting(spelled correctly) then retighten till snug but not cracked.

Edward Weber
12-18-2023, 11:23 AM
Honestly, I hope it works for you.
I will say, my first thought at seeing the photo was, why didn't they remove the tank? maybe that's just me.

Tom M King
12-18-2023, 11:26 AM
Setting a new one is easy before it's put together, but I have four old ones that need to be reset in a rental house, and two more coming up in another building, plus two more in a year or so. It's not as easy as it used to be. If it's not quite like I would like it, I don't mind cutting and welding to get it just like I would like it to be.

Edward, it's just a lot more time and water to clean up to take the tank off of one that needs to be reset.

These are my current favorite closet bolts: https://www.fluidmaster.com/products/toilet/repair-parts/7110a-setfast-toilet-bolts/
https://www.google.com/search?q=fast+set+closet+bolts&rlz=1C1KDEC_enUS921US921&oq=fast&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqDggAEEUYJxg7GIAEGIoFMg4IABBFGC cYOxiABBiKBTIMCAEQRRg5GLEDGIAEMg0IAhAuGMcBGNEDGIAE Mg0IAxAAGIMBGLEDGIAEMhMIBBAuGK8BGMcBGLEDGIAEGIoFMg oIBRAuGLEDGIAEMg0IBhAAGLEDGIAEGIoFMhAIBxAuGMcBGLED GNEDGIAEMg0ICBAuGK8BGMcBGIAEMgcICRAAGIAE0gEJMTczMG owajE1qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:bbe122b3,vid:Ok6YDJ19Bnw,st:0

and these caps: https://www.danco.com/product/universal-twister-bolt-caps-2-pack/

For washers I use 316 stainless 5/16 x1-1/4" fender washers. They show a little bit around those caps, but I don't care about that.

Bill Dufour
12-18-2023, 12:26 PM
I like to cut a drinking straw into two pieces one about 1/3 and the other 2/3 of total length. Cut them at 45 degees. Place them over the toilet bolts, cut end up, and use that to guide the bolts into the holes on the toilet base. Mcdonalds has the biggest diameter straws.
Bill D

Cameron Wood
12-18-2023, 1:20 PM
I've thought about getting one of those that's more a a modified hand truck, but the storage/use number is not great.

I like those bolt caps.

After I cut off some steel closet bolts with a grinder and etched the toilet surface, I make sure not to do that, & always have brass bolts are on hand. The little ratcheting wrenches also for closet and tank bolts.

Shims from slices of PVC pipe cut on the bandsaw.

I don't caulk the toilet to the floor. Many years of toilets show that the caulked ones are more gross under than the non-caulked ones.

I always warn clients against skirted toilets.

George Yetka
12-18-2023, 2:07 PM
I like to cut a drinking straw into two pieces one about 1/3 and the other 2/3 of total length. Cut them at 45 degees. Place them over the toilet bolts, cut end up, and use that to guide the bolts into the holes on the toilet base. Mcdonalds has the biggest diameter straws.
Bill D
That is a good idea.

Mike Soaper
12-18-2023, 6:21 PM
Tom ,
Maybe find a way to point some inexpensive laser pointers thru the toilet mounting holes to help target the closet bolts :)

Brian Runau
12-18-2023, 6:33 PM
I started having to pay handymen to do stuff like this, like a good mechanic, hang onto a good one and don't share with your friends. Brian

Bruce Wrenn
12-18-2023, 8:32 PM
I started having to pay handymen to do stuff like this, like a good mechanic, hang onto a good one and don't share with your friends. BrianHaving been that handyman during working years, I kept the same customers from opening my business till my retirement. Never printed a business card. As for setting whole toilet, I say no way. If you are going to reset an existing, most likely you will be replacing the tank bolts, so why not separate the tank first? Cut off water, then flush, holding handle till as much water as possible is gone down the drain. Then using wet/dry vacuum, remove remaining water from both tank and bowl. I've always done the "plumber's waddle," holding the bowl between my legs to place it. The bolts referenced, have a problem in their description. In paragraph, they are described as plated to resist rust, and down the page described as solid brass. Normally, other than American Standard, which come with this kind of bolt, use a TEE nut threaded onto bolts above flange to hold bolt in place. Hated to caulk a toilet in place. If wax ring failed, water was kept under toilet with no chance of being seen till floor rotted out.

Ron Selzer
12-19-2023, 12:14 AM
Thanks Tom , saved to watchlist, had to replace wax ring in 1/2 bath at daughters house. this would have been great. no longer young.
Ron

Jack Frederick
12-19-2023, 10:16 AM
I’ve never seen a toilet caddy in operation. I can still handle a two piece set up, but the last several I’ve set have been one piece, which I greatly prefer, and I simply cannot deal with those. Both he SIL are strong, so I catch them in teaching moments;) Top it off withthe Toto 550 Washlet Seat and you are good to go.

Ken Fitzgerald
12-19-2023, 2:09 PM
I only have 2 toilets with which to contend. The last time I reset one, and it was a 2 piece toilet without the tank, I wish I had something like this. I'm getting older, weaker and my body does protest these days. It didn't protest in my teen years working for a haying contractor or on the floor of an oil rig but in my mid-70's it protests!

Tom M King
12-19-2023, 2:21 PM
I'll make a video when it comes and I use it for the first time. There are some, but only with pretty disgusting toilets or poor focus.

Tom M King
12-24-2023, 4:48 PM
I used it today but it went so fast and easy that I didn't take any video. That toilet had a 24" riser that made a bend behind the toilet, so it was long enough that I didn't even have to unhook it. Cut the water off, flushed it to lighten the tank end, jacked it up, and rolled it sideways. The problem was just a rusted out 1/4" brass coated steel bolt.

Those fast set bolts are sold brass, and are really fast set.

I used a couple of wooden wedges to scrape up most of the old wax seal and put it in plastic grocery bags in the dishpan I carried in to put the trash in.

Next time I'll try to have some milkshake straws which would make alignment easier without having to look back and forth to get it exactly in the right place before easing the pressure off the jack to lower it.

Total job took less than 15 minutes with no waddling around, no strain, and it didn't spill any water. As much as 15 minutes because I had to find the vacuum cleaner to get up the dirt that my shoes tracked in.

Especially since I can deduct it against that rental income, I'm really pleased with the purchase. I'm going to replace all the other bolts and seals in the other toilets in there, and if they don't have the long risers, I'm changing those too.

The acorn nuts that come with those Fast Set bolts are too thick to allow the screw on cap adapters but I had some regular brass hex nuts that worked fine. The company that makes that jack sells bolts with caps that have the nuts built into the caps that would be best, but they come with nylon bolts and cost more than this combination that I like best.

Warren Lake
12-24-2023, 6:26 PM
never seen one and back is still fine even at this antique age. For alignment which was an issue for me putting it back exact I glued wood blocks to the floor hot melt and it went back 100 percent back in the exact same place. Id already shimmed and glued them to the floor as well. Havent done it enough times to get a system down but the micgiver way I did worked fine.

Bill Dufour
12-25-2023, 12:54 AM
The trick to the drinking straw tip is make them different enough in height that you only need to align the tall one, then keeping that aligned, you catch the short straw. Small rubber hose also works.
BilL D

Tom Bender
01-02-2024, 8:07 PM
My method:

make 4 wood cubes 1 1/2" and two short straws

Set toilet in place and draw around it with felt tip. this target is helpful.

remove toilet and instal wax

place wood cubes and set toilet on them

place bolts and hold them up with straws thru toilet

rock toilet to remove cubes

or hire a sumo wrestler

Ron Selzer
01-02-2024, 8:25 PM
bought one for work, Plummer has been complaining about his back hurting. already have people interested in using it at home.
Ron