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Brian Runau
12-16-2023, 4:00 PM
Using my Incra and trying to cut wider boards. On my new saw, Sawstop, when I pull back to allow the edge of the piece to clear the front of the blade before turning on the saw, the end of the Incra miter guide is out of the miter slot. Feel like I am introducing deflection into the cut and not getting a true 90 degree cut. I have a panel cutter I built, but seems odd to have to get this out to do this.

Thanks.

Brian

Mark Hennebury
12-16-2023, 4:18 PM
Turn you mitre fence around.

Rod Sheridan
12-16-2023, 4:37 PM
Brian, I would not suggest turning the mitre gauge around as the wood will not be supported during the cut.

You want to have the crosscut fence pushing the wood towards the blade, so a crosscut sled would be a suitable choice.

Regards, Rod

Mark Hennebury
12-16-2023, 4:46 PM
You have to hold the wood tight against the mitre fence, either way.


Brian, I would not suggest turning the mitre gauge around as the wood will not be supported during the cut.

You want to have the crosscut fence pushing the wood towards the blade, so a crosscut sled would be a suitable choice.

Regards, Rod

Doug Garson
12-16-2023, 5:07 PM
You need to make an infeed table to support your miter saw or crosscut sled. I can provide more details if you are interested.512114
If you want to buy one, check out this video by Izzy Swan, it's similar to the one I made years ago.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrIjzXDDKFs&t=136s

Richard Coers
12-16-2023, 5:31 PM
I use a cross cut sled on the table saw

Brian Runau
12-16-2023, 5:42 PM
You need to make an infeed table to support your miter saw or crosscut sled. I can provide more details if you are interested.512114
If you want to buy one, check out this video by Izzy Swan, it's similar to the one I made years ago.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrIjzXDDKFs&t=136s

Thanks Doug. Brian

Brian Runau
12-16-2023, 5:43 PM
Thanks men. Sounds like an infeed table or crosscut sled. Brian

ChrisA Edwards
12-16-2023, 5:49 PM
Crosscut sleds for 99% of cuts, Incra Miter gauge for the other 1%.

I have two homemade sleds, one is my go to for smaller widths, 0"-10" and then a larger one for about a 24" width.

Doug Garson
12-16-2023, 6:18 PM
Here's another variation on an infeed table with a bonus fence storage solution. Forward to about 16:30 of this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP1nATcKTsg

Michael Burnside
12-16-2023, 6:23 PM
I agree with most of the posts above that a cross-cut sled is generally the go to for anything of reasonable depth (say 10+ inches).

My crosscut died when we moved due to moisture in the storage unit, so before I started on my wife's turn-table console she wanted, for the new house, she surprised me with a very nice anniversary present. 100% of the crosscuts and miters were cut using the Woodpeckers Auto-Scale. I can crosscut nearly 24" before it even begins to move. If you haven't built your own though, I recommend making a good crosscut at least once. IMHO the WP auto-scale is better than a home made one in many ways (I've built many myself), but it's certainly not necessary. What is necessary is that you have at least one crosscut sled in your shop!

https://i.postimg.cc/FzMk95DT/autoscale.jpg

As mentioned, I built this almost exclusively using the WP Auto-Scale and just standard rips on the SawStop. The miters came out absolutely perfect.

https://i.postimg.cc/sfqhP7s5/rplayer.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/bNn2mrwW/rplayer-miter-box.jpg

I don't do a lot of big cabinets, but in a pinch I'll use the Harvey Crosscut. I love it when I need it, but you can do the same thing with a tracksaw in a pinch.

https://i.postimg.cc/L8MgwSqX/harvey-crosscut.jpg

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12-16-2023, 6:45 PM
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Rod Sheridan
12-17-2023, 1:05 PM
You have to hold the wood tight against the mitre fence, either way.


Yes Mark, I’m aware of that however in one situation the fence is supporting the stock against the cutting force, in the other it is not.

I always pick the direction with support.

Regards, Rod.

Steve Demuth
12-17-2023, 5:05 PM
This ^^^^. I rarely use my miter gauge for straight (right angle) cross cuts, and never for cross cuts greater than a couple of inches. I keep a dialed in to square, small crosscut sled hanging on a hook next to the saw, and it's the go to for nearly all cross cuts that don't require setting an angle.

(And for that matter, those that do require an angle probably more often than not go on home built wedgie sled, which has settings for the most common angles one cuts.

Rich Engelhardt
12-17-2023, 5:28 PM
I follow Norm on this.
Norm uses two different sleds.
One has the fence away from the operator.
The other is the more well known crosscut sled, with the fence by the operator.
You can see him use both in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvfLHmhkkwM

Also - I have a track saw which I also use, depending on the size of the material.

Mark Hennebury
12-17-2023, 6:44 PM
My bad Rod, i should have suggested this; the best way to do this is with the following;
An old rebuilt Thomas Robinson sliding table saw. Unfortunately I just sold this one.

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Or a new Reinhard Sliding table saw from Switzerland, Approximate cost $65,000 USD

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You could of course spend a few hours /days and build a sled.

Or you could just cut the wood in a few seconds with the mitre fence on your saw, either with the fence forward or behind......but you will have to hold or clamp the wood tight to the mitre fence. Just in case someone didn't get that.

If holding or clamping a piece of wood tight against a mitre fence, in either forward or aft is above your paygrade.... you may want to reconsider woodworking as a hobby, as you are most likely to get seriously injured.

below is a Martin Slider using a forward fence and clamps.

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ray grundhoefer
12-17-2023, 7:06 PM
I use my dewalt radial arm saw. Perfect 90% every time

roger wiegand
12-17-2023, 7:53 PM
All of the sleds are only good up until a certain point when they begin to wander. Anything more than about 15" and I use a track saw. With just a little care in setup it makes a perfect 90, not burdensome for occasional cuts. If I had to do it all the time a slider would be the weapon of choice.

Up to about 11" my SCMS in my hands produces perfect 90s consistently and much more easily than manhandling the big crosscut sled. I well know that the rest of you hate them and are convinced they can't possibly work, but there you go.

Edward Weber
12-18-2023, 2:42 PM
I use my dewalt radial arm saw. Perfect 90% every time
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I use my TS (sleds/miter-gauges) for manageable sizes. When they get too long and or wide to be comfortable with, I use either my SCMS, 12" capacity or my RAS, 17" capacity.

George Yetka
12-18-2023, 4:00 PM
depending on the length if the board were that wide I may just use the table saw fence if im aiming for 90

Michael Burnside
12-18-2023, 5:38 PM
depending on the length if the board were that wide I may just use the table saw fence if im aiming for 90

100%. That's why I feel my current setup does it all for me. After about 22-24" I'm just going to use the fence.