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Alan Lightstone
12-14-2023, 8:34 AM
Ah, another pet peeve of mine. Online reviews.

I received this in the mail today:
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Ah yes, for a $100 "Discount" you too can get a 5-star rating as a doctor. I really hope people don't read those, but I know they do.

My personal favorite is the "Top Doctors in ...." sites. For usually about $300 (or more if you want them framed) you too can be a "Top Doctor" in your area, be in magazines, etc... For kicks, after I retired, I paid for one of those. Loved that I was a "Top Doctor in ..." even though I wasn't practicing. :rolleyes: Really disgusting what this has turned into. It's hard enough to find a real quality doctor. This just makes that task much harder. Years ago, the worst doctor in my group got this. Everyone knew to avoid him. But, there was that "Top Doctor" designation...

Dave Anderson NH
12-14-2023, 10:22 AM
Similar things abound for other "industries" Alan. When it comes to medicine I cheat. I am fortunate that several of my friends from college went into medicine. I simply ask them to do what they can to find out about the reputation of any doctors either my wife or I need to see. I know it isn't foolproof, but so far we haven't been steered wrong.

George Yetka
12-14-2023, 10:44 AM
When I search "best" I usually check 4-5 lists to find out what is reoccuring and from there I read reviews of those products without searching "Best". I use it more to find out whats available in a market.

Jim Koepke
12-14-2023, 11:10 AM
I remember "shopping for a doctor." This was before the internet. Then it all depended on if your medical plan was accepted by any doctor you were thinking of going to for consultation.

One of my employers changed plans every year. For a few years I never saw the same doctor twice.

Now as a member of a medical group we have had one doctor until they retire or move to a different location. It is kind of nice having one doctor or group of doctors who are familiar with their patients.

That individuals from various service providers can purchase a reputation is kind of appalling to me.

jtk

Bill Dufour
12-14-2023, 12:08 PM
Angie's list worked, not exactly pay for top billing, buy adds and your rating went up. They have changed the spelling to distance themselves form bad past? practices.
Bill D

Mark Hennebury
12-14-2023, 12:29 PM
We live in the age of unbridled B.S. and civilization is doomed.

Civilization has always been founded on human gullibility, but it was never able to be exploited so much by so many, in so many ways, to such an extent that you can trust nothing and no one.

In the immortal words of the great philosopher Iron Mike
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It is time to enter the age of accountability.

Warren Lake
12-14-2023, 12:41 PM
yes and bring back public flogging

Edward Weber
12-14-2023, 1:09 PM
The thing about "the best of" is that you used to ask your friends and family members for their opinion, you know, people you could trust not to steer you wrong.

Now, not only are many of the "best of" lisst generated by online reviews, sales figures and their paid for status, etc. These are anonymous opinions from people/algorithms who, from just reading a few sentences, you can tell have no clue what they're talking about. The same verbiage can be used to describe a hair dryer or a belt sander.
There is also no objective basis on which to determine what is "the best". This is what is exploited and how they get away with nonsensical lists that are paid for by ad revenue.

I'm with George on this.
I will often look to see whats available, check prices and then start the investigation to see if whatever product/service lives up to their list position.
JMO

Thomas McCurnin
12-14-2023, 1:12 PM
When I was practicing law, they instigated "Superlawyers" and "Superlawers' Magazine." Of course, none of the large firm Harvard trial lawyers were on that list, because one had to pay $2,000 to be a "Superlawyer." And they took anyone's money.

Stan Calow
12-14-2023, 3:13 PM
Everytime I see something like that, I realize there must be enough people who believe they're legitimate evaluations to make it worthwhile.

I feel the same contempt as when they have those "Hollywood Walk of Fame" ceremonies, when pretty much people have bought their place "among the stars"..

Mark Hennebury
12-14-2023, 3:46 PM
We all "believe"

Choose your poison, Religion, Politics, Justice, Art, Conspiracies, Flat earth, UFO's, Astrology, Advertising, Fake news etc. etc......

Don't forget one of our very own "Best of" Sam Maloof.

Anything that can't be measured will be exaggerated, and sold to the willing, gullible believers, by those who stand to profit from doing so.

B.S. is the universal currency, the universal language, and the oil the lubricates the gears of human civilization.


Everytime I see something like that, I realize there must be enough people who believe they're legitimate evaluations to make it worthwhile.

I feel the same contempt as when they have those "Hollywood Walk of Fame" ceremonies, when pretty much people have bought their place "among the stars"..

Patty Hann
12-15-2023, 4:46 AM
yes and bring back public flogging

Great idea...it's got my vote.

Perry Hilbert Jr
12-16-2023, 2:33 PM
Depending on what I am checking, I go to state court case records and look up the number of times a company has been sued. Especially by consumer orgs.

Frederick Skelly
12-16-2023, 8:58 PM
Great idea...it's got my vote.

Mine too Patty! (Off topic: I think the Mike Tyson quote was pretty much right on.)

glenn bradley
12-16-2023, 11:21 PM
A good public service announcement. The more you know . . .

At this point in history I guess I will never stop being surprised that people still fall for, and do, the things we've been warning them about since the mid 90s.

Patty Hann
12-17-2023, 12:09 AM
A good public service announcement. The more you know . . .

At this point in history I guess I will never stop being surprised that people still fall for, and do, the things we've been warning them about since the mid 90s.

How can you possibly go wrong with a Nigerian prince????

Pat Germain
12-17-2023, 12:13 AM
yes and bring back public flogging People always say that, but it's not like it prevented crime. It's like when people tell me, "In the Middle East, they still have public hangings. We should do the same!". Well, if it's so effective, why are they still doing it after 1,000 years?

Mark Hennebury
12-17-2023, 12:41 AM
Hanging people for the crimes that they commit, works 100% , not one of them ever committed another crime. And the reason that they are still doing it, is that there are still a lot of arseholes in the world, but at least they are working on the problem.


People always say that, but it's not like it prevented crime. It's like when people tell me, "In the Middle East, they still have public hangings. We should do the same!". Well, if it's so effective, why are they still doing it after 1,000 years?

Patty Hann
12-17-2023, 12:46 AM
People always say that, but it's not like it prevented crime. It's like when people tell me, "In the Middle East, they still have public hangings. We should do the same!". Well, if it's so effective, why are they still doing it after 1,000 years?
For the same reason some people continue to smoke and some people do not take common sense precautions in, say, woodworking:.... because whatever it is --getting caught, getting cancer/emphysema, losing a finger --- "it will never happen to them."
Human nature is incorrigible...most only wise up/learn a lesson after something happens.