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Prashun Patel
09-12-2023, 2:29 PM
I need to make a new steam box. The plywood one I made has delaminated after several years. If I make a new one from wood, it will be solid. However, I really like the idea of a PVC steam tube. Unfortunately, the Schedule 40 one I made melted and sagged very quickly.

I've read that Sch 80 is better, and even Peter Galbert seems to have used one. However, the melt temperatures of all pvc appears to be under 180 degrees, so won't it all melt?

Any advice appreciated.

Doug Garson
09-12-2023, 2:47 PM
How about metal ducting? Make the ends from wood and wrap with insulation.

lou Brava
09-12-2023, 3:44 PM
How about the orange fire sprinkler pipe ? https://www.plumbers-supply-co.com/2743929/product/spears-cp-010

Richard Coers
09-12-2023, 4:19 PM
From what I've seen, you just need to support the schedule 80 more so it doesn't sag. If you are steaming thick pieces of wood over a long time, wood will work better. Just don't the door a flush mount as it could get stuck from movement. Lots of videos on YouTube showing PVC steam boxes.

Lee Schierer
09-12-2023, 5:36 PM
Depending upon the size of pieces you are wishing to steam, you could use the spiral air duct material with a solid wood cap at each end you will need to slope the pipe so the condensate will drain and have a small vent at the opposite end from where the steam is introduced. It would be better to inject the stem at the mid point and have vents at each end for more rapid and uniform steaming. A steam generator can be a metal gas can with a length of rubber automotive hose stuck in the spout and the input port to your chamber. Use a Coleman stove or hot plate for a heat source. Insulating the metal pipe would improve performance and reduce steam generation capacity.

Jamie Buxton
09-12-2023, 6:14 PM
Yeah, my PVC steaming pipe looked neat until the steam hit it. I went back to wood. Wood's nice stuff, y'know? Solid lumber does a good job. Or you can use cheap plywood, and figure on replacing it every once in a while.

Kevin Jenness
09-12-2023, 7:42 PM
Try using a 6mil poly bag. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50uXPPt8-VI

Bill Dufour
09-12-2023, 8:47 PM
ABS pipe is 221F.

Thomas McCurnin
09-12-2023, 9:20 PM
I have used plywood, properly sealed inside and out for years. Add a drip drain and some holes for a brass grate to support the pieces and an exit pipe for the steam.

Warren Lake
09-12-2023, 9:53 PM
Chuck Norris does not need a steam bender he just uses his hands.

Kevin Jenness
09-13-2023, 8:14 AM
I've used galvanized steel ducting in the past. Eventually it will rust but if the stock is supported on wooden rods that's ok, and it is lighter than plywood, I'm not kidding about using bags though, you can get them in any length and roll them up for storage, and you can bend a large piece around your form while still in the bag and still putting steam to it.

Mike King
09-13-2023, 8:20 AM
Was you steam box made with marine plywood? Mine is out of MDO but it is only a few months old. Seems to work pretty well. Michael Fortune recommends using marine plywood.

Jay Houghton
09-13-2023, 8:21 AM
I took a steam bending class with Michael Fortune one time and he builds his out of exterior grade plywood. He claims they last a long time and just don't paint it so it can dry out after use. I have yet to build one so no personal experience.
Jay

Bradley Gray
09-13-2023, 8:42 AM
I use a wooden box insulated with rigid fiberglass but the bag idea is interesting. How would I insulate? Steaming while on the form would be a big plus.

Kevin Jenness
09-13-2023, 8:55 AM
You could throw a blanket over the setup. Whether you need to depends on your steam generating capacity. I stumbled on the technique in several of Lou Sauzedde's videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50uXPPt8-VI&t=8s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RORoex0TTfY&t=45s

Kent A Bathurst
09-13-2023, 5:27 PM
The plywood one I made has delaminated after several years..

Hate to run counter to the tide here, but everything eventually runs out of road [except my sainted 3-pedal E39].

Why not slap together another plywood version and run it for "several years"?

Prashun Patel
09-14-2023, 9:07 AM
The longer I can make "several" the better. The only thing that surpasses my laziness is my cheapness. I will probably go with CDX plywood.

Wes Grass
09-15-2023, 8:26 PM
everything eventually runs out of road

Check out the Swiss electric car. Only needs 12 meters to get to 60.

Kent A Bathurst
09-16-2023, 9:07 AM
Check out the Swiss electric car. Only needs 12 meters to get to 60.

Saw that. Must be quite a ride. 12 meters and sub-1 second to get to 100kph.

Of course, the next 100 m takes 3 hours.......

Tom Bender
09-21-2023, 8:13 AM
One under appreciated detail when steaming; steam leaking out the far end of the box does not equate to "start the clock" Insert a thermometer into a low point and wait till it says at least 200 F.

My steam generator is a complex monster. I think a wallpaper steamer might work well, and it's cheap. Next time...