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Bob Jones 5443
06-15-2023, 8:54 PM
I'm looking for a brand of double sided tape to use with templates on the router table. I had a great brand some time ago, but it seems to have gotten used up and I've forgotten the name of it. Does anyone have a suggestion?

Today I used whatever was in our tape box to make a 3/4" MDF template from an earlier 1/4" MDF template. It stuck, that's for sure. But I'm having a time removing it. When I use the 3/4" template on my bubinga board, I want to make sure it will come off easily.

What's the secret?

Many thanks.

Cary Falk
06-15-2023, 9:11 PM
I like Spectape

Richard Coers
06-16-2023, 12:53 AM
Careful what you wish for. I could come off easily while routing!

Bob Jones 5443
06-16-2023, 1:53 AM
Careful what you wish for. I could come off easily while routing!

Yes, that could be a risk, one that I want to avoid. In my search I found this:

https://www.amazon.com/XFasten-Double-Woodworking-Yellow-Backing/dp/B07F1BJN6D/ref=asc_df_B07F1BJN6D/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309830852390&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6237080072671577785&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031997&hvtargid=pla-569646549279&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=60204556045&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=309830852390&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6237080072671577785&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031997&hvtargid=pla-569646549279

Says it's optimized for woodworking, including routing with a template. Here's the hype:



Silicone-based adhesive allows the double stick woodworking tape to be stable yet removable, residue-free and not damage the wood’s delicate surface, EMPOWERING the AVERAGE AMERICAN WOODWORKER to produce NEAT and PRO projects.


Anyone hear of it or use it?

Dennis Yamamoto
06-16-2023, 4:44 AM
I use what the Krenov School used a few years ago: Intertape 591. It does take some effort to remove, but you don't want it to come off when you are template routing or shaping. It's the only thing limiting your depth of cut.

Frederick Skelly
06-16-2023, 6:33 AM
Yes, that could be a risk, one that I want to avoid. In my search I found this:

https://www.amazon.com/XFasten-Double-Woodworking-Yellow-Backing/dp/B07F1BJN6D/ref=asc_df_B07F1BJN6D/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309830852390&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6237080072671577785&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031997&hvtargid=pla-569646549279&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=60204556045&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=309830852390&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6237080072671577785&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031997&hvtargid=pla-569646549279

Says it's optimized for woodworking, including routing with a template. Here's the hype:



Silicone-based adhesive allows the double stick woodworking tape to be stable yet removable, residue-free and not damage the wood’s delicate surface, EMPOWERING the AVERAGE AMERICAN WOODWORKER to produce NEAT and PRO projects.


Anyone hear of it or use it?

FWIW, Fine Woodworking just had a paragraph on that in their new product column. They said good things. (I don’t know if they get paid to endorse products in that column though.)

Bill Carey
06-16-2023, 6:59 AM
I've used the XFasten Carpet (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0141L81GS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1) tape for years with no problems. It's 2" wide rather than 2.5, and it's cheaper.

Dwayne Watt
06-16-2023, 8:11 AM
Intertape 591 is my choice. 591 is typically used on golf grips. It separates after use reasonably easy with a putty knife and leaves no obvious residue. It is pressure sensitive so is advisable to clamp your work together for a few seconds for best results. I use the 3/4" wide version but other widths are available.
(note: just now looking at the XFasten product and it appears to be less expensive than 591.)

Jonathan Jung
06-16-2023, 9:01 AM
I avoid tape whenever I can, and use Festool / similar clamps, slid into a 1/2" hole drilled into the edge of the template. Added benefit is that a couple of these clamps gives you something to hold onto.

Patty Hann
06-16-2023, 9:16 AM
I like Spectape
Ditto on the Spectape
But there are two kinds: paper and cloth(like)
Ive only use the cloth tape and it is twice as expensive as the paper tape. But it does stick very well.
On smaller pieces of material you separate them by rotating one against the other because the tape has no (or not very much) strength against shearing forces.
Prying the pieces apart is a lot more difficult.

Jim Becker
06-16-2023, 9:40 AM
Decent double sided (carpet) tape is necessarily going to be mo-difficult to remove. An alternative to consider is the super glue and painter's tape method which is reliable and leaves no residue on the template or workpiece.

Warren Lake
06-16-2023, 10:26 AM
past used 3M stuff always fine, at one point didnt have time for the regular supplier and got some home depot stuff that was 3M bit thinner but worked great. I can find a part number. If you want less stick from tape you can drag it across your pant leg before you use it. Some car builders do that. Never had an issue removing tape. All tape has a shelf life 3M green auto tape lasts longer than one other brand. Having trouble getting 3M green now been offered Yellow or one other brand and said no to the other past peeling it off more than annoying.

Bernie Kopfer
06-16-2023, 10:32 AM
I like Spectape
I have found that I like this product better than X Fasten

Richard Coers
06-16-2023, 3:30 PM
Yes, that could be a risk, one that I want to avoid. In my search I found this:

https://www.amazon.com/XFasten-Double-Woodworking-Yellow-Backing/dp/B07F1BJN6D/ref=asc_df_B07F1BJN6D/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309830852390&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6237080072671577785&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031997&hvtargid=pla-569646549279&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=60204556045&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=309830852390&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6237080072671577785&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031997&hvtargid=pla-569646549279

Says it's optimized for woodworking, including routing with a template. Here's the hype:



Silicone-based adhesive allows the double stick woodworking tape to be stable yet removable, residue-free and not damage the wood’s delicate surface, EMPOWERING the AVERAGE AMERICAN WOODWORKER to produce NEAT and PRO projects.


Anyone hear of it or use it?
I refuse to use anything that says silicone in the wood shop. Silicone contamination on wood makes for a horrible time putting on a finish. Fish-eye is the result and it's a mess to take care of.

Cary Falk
06-16-2023, 5:11 PM
I bought some x-fasen tape on Amazon. I don't like it. It is too rubbery. Hard to cut with some scissors. I use it on my CNC. I think I got a 3 pack because it was cheaper than Spectape. Once it is gone, I am done with it.

Russ Matoy
06-20-2023, 10:18 PM
I've had good success using the blue painters tape (easy to remove) on each piece and using a little superglue between the tape on each side.

mike calabrese
06-21-2023, 6:31 AM
I use a tape that holds like iron, this stuff. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BBL4JXJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
In woodworking using dbl side tape it has to have a great hold to be safe and effective.
When it is done and time to remove I use a putty knife with a sharpened lead edge . Get it started just a bit under the joint and slowly pry up. You will get a result that looks like little progress, Go deeper and repeat. It will take a little technique but the tape will let go . Every inch you raise leaves less tape to pull up.
ALSO using super strong tape simply reduce the amount of tape you use.
The table legs below were cut with a router template that was held down with the tape mentioned above .The tape was applied about 1 inch long in 3 places and held like iron and still made removing the template (luan plywood) quite easy. It worked on 4 sides on 4 legs .
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glenn bradley
06-21-2023, 8:59 AM
Another Spectape user here. The secret to easy removal is to not let it set too long. Double tape, do your operation, and remove the tape.

Michael Burnside
06-21-2023, 11:58 AM
Yes, that could be a risk, one that I want to avoid. In my search I found this:

https://www.amazon.com/XFasten-Double-Woodworking-Yellow-Backing/dp/B07F1BJN6D/ref=asc_df_B07F1BJN6D/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309830852390&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6237080072671577785&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031997&hvtargid=pla-569646549279&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=60204556045&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=309830852390&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6237080072671577785&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031997&hvtargid=pla-569646549279

Says it's optimized for woodworking, including routing with a template. Here's the hype:



Silicone-based adhesive allows the double stick woodworking tape to be stable yet removable, residue-free and not damage the wood’s delicate surface, EMPOWERING the AVERAGE AMERICAN WOODWORKER to produce NEAT and PRO projects.


Anyone hear of it or use it?

This is all I use, both for templating/furniture building and CNC.

Brad Chenoweth
06-21-2023, 12:15 PM
Jim, something I've wondered about: why use painters tape instead of regular masking tape? I'm going to try it on my CNC and see if there is any difference.

George Yetka
06-21-2023, 2:09 PM
Ive been using this hippie stuff
https://www.amazon.com/https-www.amazon.com-Woodworking-Accessories-Double-Sided-Tape-Removable-dp-B08GQBRQHY/dp/B08GQBRQHY/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2PWOL9M9I9BVD&keywords=double%2Bsided%2Btape&qid=1687370886&sprefix=double%2Bsided%2Btape%2Caps%2C148&sr=8-5&th=1

Jim Becker
06-21-2023, 3:38 PM
Jim, something I've wondered about: why use painters tape instead of regular masking tape? I'm going to try it on my CNC and see if there is any difference.
You can. "Regular Masking Tape" and "Painter's Tape" are essentially the same thing "in general". The blue tape does come in multiple adhesion levels, so you want the version(s) closer to what "regular" plain masking tape provides, not the easy release version. (I forget the color coding)