Veritas PM-V11 mortise chisels discontinued?

[Tom Bain]

I have a set of the Veritas PM-V11 mortise chisels, with the exception of the 3/8” chisel which I’ve been tracking on the Lee Valley web site. Been back ordered forever. Logged in today and saw that they are no longer available. Only A2 steel now. Anyone know why?

[Chuck Hill]

Your best bet is to ask LV customer service directly. My guess is continued supply chain issues affecting the raw materials.

[Jon Snider]

Well, since Rob is a fairly frequent poster here, and we talk about LV frequently (almost uniformly positive), this seems like a good place to ask.

[Jim Koepke]

This may be a round about and more expensive way to acquire one > https://www.canadiantools.co.uk/product/veritas-pm-v11-mortice-chisel-3-8-105148/

You may have to contact them to make sure it is in stock.

jtk

[Ken Fitzgerald]

If they are having trouble getting the raw materials with no good prediction of when the materials will be available, it would be smart to remove a product from the website just to keep the long line of unfilled customer orders from continuing to lengthen. Personally, I'd call LV to find out.

[John C Cox]

Their site lists two material choices, but only one is currently available for purchase. Likely, they are out of suitable material. A call would clear things up.

Personally, after using A2 (Blue Spruce,) I wouldn't hesitate to purchase a quality A2 mortise chisel. I prefer quality high carbon steel for paring, but A2 will do well chopping so long as you are intentional about edge prep.

[Derek Cohen]

John's correct. I road tested the Veritas mortice chisels before production. I had A2 and PM-V11. I chopped many metres of mortices. The PM-V11 may be better at holding an edge than the A2, but I could not tell this in a real world test, as neither became dull. They both just soldiered on and on ...

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Jim Koepke]

Their site lists two material choices, but only one is currently available for purchase. Likely, they are out of suitable material. A call would clear things up.

Personally, after using A2 (Blue Spruce,) I wouldn't hesitate to purchase a quality A2 mortise chisel. I prefer quality high carbon steel for paring, but A2 will do well chopping so long as you are intentional about edge prep.

Having used both A2 steel and PMv-11, my preference is for the PMv-11. It is easier to sharpen and less likely to chip.

jtk

[Tony Shea]

I'm showing that both A2 and PMV11 are not available. Interesting.

[Rob Lee]

I have a set of the Veritas PM-V11 mortise chisels, with the exception of the 3/8” chisel which I’ve been tracking on the Lee Valley web site. Been back ordered forever. Logged in today and saw that they are no longer available. Only A2 steel now. Anyone know why?

Hi Tom -

The A2 were discontinued so we could concentrate on the PM-V11 version. A few weeks ago, our cost to produce the PM-V11 exceeded the retail price - so we are going to stop taking orders. It is likely that we will reinstate the A2 version.

We will be filling all currently ordered chisels though - just working through that now.

They may be back in future - but we have to look at our processes to find some production efficiency. I do NOT want to be selling $200 chisels.

Cheers -

Rob

[Greg Parrish]

Thanks Rob. Is it only the Mortise Chisels that are experiencing the issue, or all PM-V11 products?

Regards,

Greg



Hi Tom -

The A2 were discontinued so we could concentrate on the PM-V11 version. A few weeks ago, our cost to produce the PM-V11 exceeded the retail price - so we are going to stop taking orders. It is likely that we will reinstate the A2 version.

We will be filling all currently ordered chisels though - just working through that now.

They may be back in future - but we have to look at our processes to find some production efficiency. I do NOT want to be selling $200 chisels.

Cheers -

Rob

[Tom M King]

I figured it was all guesswork until Rob showed up.

[Rob Lee]

Thanks Rob. Is it only the Mortise Chisels that are experiencing the issue, or all PM-V11 products?

Regards,

Greg

Hi Greg -

Just the mortise chisels.... though the raw material also went up on other PM-V11 product, there were offsetting production efficiency gains...

Cheers -

Rob

[Tom Bain]

Rob - Thanks for the explanation, and good luck with the production and input prices. Inflation is rough.