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Radu Tenenbaum
05-24-2023, 6:25 AM
I watched a couple shooting board videos that used a low friction plastic material for the plane to slide over, but they didn't identify the material. Nylon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcVK5wLSPOw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4VsyqVr8Gc

David Carroll
05-24-2023, 7:00 AM
It doesn't look to be Nylon to me, normally Nylon is a bit less opaque and more yellow than bright white, but would work. That material looks to be Delrin (Acetal) which is widely available, machines well, and has a very low friction coefficient. It's available in white and black, in blocks, profiles, and sheets. We use a fair bit of it at work. (It's also great electrical insulator. I design high voltage equipment for a living). We don't use thin sheets of it or I'd offer to send you some.

Small pieces of it are available through McMaster-Carr. It's pricey, but not as much as some other plastics.

There are other choices as well, High Density Polyethylene would work

To be honest, I think that waxed birch plywood wouldn't be noticeably different.

DC

Kent A Bathurst
05-24-2023, 7:38 AM
......... material looks to be Delrin (Acetal) which .......available through McMaster-Carr..........

Looks to be, but it ain't. UHMW [ultra-high-molecular weight] is Delrin's local cousin - it inhabits our part of the time-space continuum, rather Delrin which eases the way for giant machines. etc.

Even better - it is much less costly, will do this job perfectly, and it comes in adhesive-backed tapes of many widths and thicknesses. You don't need to build up a screw-on platform, just use tape, I use the tape - over time it gets a bit torn, so I scrape it off and replace. No screws needed, so don't need it thick enough to accept countersunk fasteners

McM-C tape page:

https://www.mcmaster.com/products/adhesive-tape/material~uhmw-plastic/

If you want to use solid material, they have that also.

https://www.mcmaster.com/products/uhmw-polyethylene/slippery-uhmw-polyethylene-sheets-bars-and-strips/

Tom M King
05-24-2023, 7:42 AM
I built one out of Corian but don't see a lot of difference over wooden ones. I ended up using wax on both types. Renaissance wax is quite slippery.

Rob Luter
05-24-2023, 9:36 AM
It's UHMWPE. I have some tape from 3M made of the stuff. It's about 0.060" thick with adhesive backing. I lined my shooting board with it.

Derek Cohen
05-24-2023, 9:52 AM
I watched a couple shooting board videos that used a low friction plastic material for the plane to slide over, but they didn't identify the material. Nylon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcVK5wLSPOw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4VsyqVr8Gc

Radu, you do not need - or benefit - from special low friction material on a shooting board runway. All you need is wax.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Jim Koepke
05-24-2023, 11:55 AM
All you need is wax.

Sounds like a Beatles song. But it is true, candle wax, canning wax or bee's wax all work well.

jtk

Stephen Rosenthal
05-24-2023, 12:35 PM
It's HDPE. I have some tape from 3M made of the stuff. It's about 0.060" thick with adhesive backing. I lined my shooting board with it.

Me too. I have 2 shooting boards - one Baltic birch for end grain and a Maple ply 4 footer with an adjustable fence for long grain. Both board’s tracks are lined with HDPE. Woodcraft carries rolls of self-adhesive 1 1/2” and 3” HDPE. Zero maintenance and functions like new after 15+ years. Is it absolutely necessary? No. But why deal with periodic waxing when a one time solution is available?

Cameron Wood
05-24-2023, 1:10 PM
Me too. I have 2 shooting boards - one Baltic birch for end grain and a Maple ply 4 footer with an adjustable fence for long grain. Both board’s tracks are lined with HDPE. Woodcraft carries rolls of self-adhesive 1 1/2” and 3” HDPE. Zero maintenance and functions like new after 15+ years. Is it absolutely necessary? No. But why deal with periodic waxing when a one time solution is available?



A 4' long shooting board? Interesting- got a pic?

Stephen Rosenthal
05-24-2023, 1:40 PM
A 4' long shooting board? Interesting- got a pic?

Got the idea from an article by one of the Walke-Moore guys. Can’t recall if it was in a publication or a blogpost. Customized it for my needs.
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George Yetka
05-24-2023, 1:49 PM
I built one with the uhmw. Kind of a waste it does move very smoothly but wax on a board will have it moving pretty much the same

Cameron Wood
05-24-2023, 3:01 PM
Got the idea from an article by one of the Walke-Moore guys. Can’t recall if it was in a publication or a blogpost. Customized it for my needs.
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Stephen Rosenthal
05-24-2023, 3:21 PM
Oops, George jogged my memory. The track is lined with self-adhesive UHMW, not HDPE. 3” roll purchased at Woodcraft.

Jim Koepke
05-24-2023, 4:13 PM
I built one with the uhmw. Kind of a waste it does move very smoothly but wax on a board will have it moving pretty much the same

Why wax the board when waxing the plane is faster?

jtk

Jim Koepke
05-24-2023, 4:13 PM
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10?

jtk

Jim Koepke
05-24-2023, 4:16 PM
10 is nothing special.

jtk

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Derek Cohen
05-24-2023, 7:45 PM
I was thinking to myself, as I used this jointing shooting board this past weekend, that the planing was effortless. Just wax, a well-fitted support for the plane on the runway, and a heavy shooting plane for momentum …

https://sawmillcreek.org/blob:https://sawmillcreek.org/8c6dd5a3-1ac7-4acc-aa59-c081d18ef1ac
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With a mitre attachment, it shoots perfect mitres as well ..

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Mostly I use this one, which is iron-on-iron. Wax is necessary …

https://sawmillcreek.org/blob:https://sawmillcreek.org/f1c06fd8-98cc-470d-9fe3-2b4425907fe5
https://i.postimg.cc/qpBXwwnt/Sat8.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Regards from Perth

Derek

Lee Schierer
05-24-2023, 9:03 PM
Delrin or UHMW will both work and last a long time. Both can be machined with wood working tools. UHMW tape works well for many applications in the shop to make thing slide easier. It lasts longer than an application of wax. I used UHMW tape on the side of my miter bar to eliminate all the side to side movement while letting it slide easily in the slot. If it gets damaged or wears out, it is easily reapplied.

andy bessette
05-24-2023, 9:14 PM
Formica is pretty slick too.

Cameron Wood
05-24-2023, 9:50 PM
10 is nothing special.

jtk

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Good to know...:)