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Andrew Pitonyak
05-09-2023, 10:46 PM
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I fixed some splits and knots using epoxy.

The epoxy sits proud of the wood (walnut) and I want to make it flush.

I brought it to size using my powered thickness planer. I have never run wood with epoxy through a thickness planer. I was thinking about just running this through to bring things flush. Is this likely to work.

andy bessette
05-10-2023, 12:44 AM
Belt sander or sanding block.

Ron Citerone
05-10-2023, 8:01 AM
I usually sand wit ROS or sand paper on a rubber sanding block. Can't say I ever ran it through a planer so I can't comment on that.

Bradley Gray
05-10-2023, 8:28 AM
If you catch it before the epoxy is completely hard, a sharp chisel works well.

Justin Kwong
05-10-2023, 8:29 AM
Using a card scraper has worked great for me in the past. Slow but steady.

Chuck Saunders
05-10-2023, 8:44 AM
Card scraper works exceptionally well.
Chuck

Eugene Dixon
05-10-2023, 9:04 AM
Card scraper is where I start on bowls. Depending on the form, I may use a stationary belt sander followed by ROS.

Stan Calow
05-10-2023, 9:18 AM
I don't think many people have them, but a chisel plane or bull-nose plane works for this.

Jim Becker
05-10-2023, 10:24 AM
Along the line of what Stan mentioned, a chisel plane or wide chisel that can get flat on the surface so you can do "slicing" motions to shave off the epoxy (or even shave off wood inlays) and then sanding as normal.

George Yetka
05-10-2023, 10:27 AM
Heat gun and card scraper to get flush. I have in some lighter colored woods had dark pigments dye the wood and had to sand a little to get past it.

Derek Cohen
05-10-2023, 12:48 PM
If the epoxy is dry and hard, it will chip out if you run a scraper over it. In this case, use a sanding block with coarse grit, followed by a medium grip. Once flush, you can sand further, scrape or hand plane.

If still slightly soft, use the edge of a chisel to slice away the waste. Be careful, if not firm enough, you can lift chunks of the epoxy from the hole.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Andrew Pitonyak
05-10-2023, 8:12 PM
Epoxy is completely hard at this point so I will go straight to the coarse grit sandpaper.

A machine would be faster, but do not want to risk ripping it out or chipping it.

andy bessette
05-10-2023, 8:36 PM
If you used WEST epoxy it won't come out.

Dave Sabo
05-10-2023, 10:49 PM
My weapon of choice lately is a spokeshave.

I have used a card scraper and chisel too and a rotex 90 sander has been handy too.

Kevin Jenness
05-11-2023, 9:10 AM
For any substantial overfill a router with a sub-base is quick and accurate, followed by scraping or sanding. The base can have two skids or a wide buildup to one side of the bit as for levelling edgebanding, with the bit set to skim just above the work surface.

chuck van dyck
05-11-2023, 10:41 AM
I’m currently in the process of filling 50 reclaimed white oak stair treads. I’ve found light passes in the planer is okay, but go too hard and it pulls some out. Im using west systems with the thickener.
Light passes to knock it mostly down and finishing with the drum sander is doing the trick.
When I fill to a smaller scale I usually just use the LN 102 or 15mm kote nomi. The little 12v bosch electric plane works well too. So basically anything that is gentle enough to not rip it out. Which is most tools I guess.

andy bessette
05-11-2023, 11:03 AM
...I’ve found light passes in the planer is okay, but go too hard and it pulls some out. Im using west systems with the thickener...

The thickener weakens the mix, inhibits complete saturation, and prevents getting a good bond, unless you thoroughly prime first with neat epoxy mix.

chuck van dyck
05-11-2023, 12:36 PM
The thickener weakens the mix, inhibits complete saturation, and prevents getting a good bond, unless you thoroughly prime first with neat epoxy mix.

Perhaps. But sure saves a lot of time and material. I’d personally rather not fully fill a 1/4” by 12” check/void in 6/4 material.

andy bessette
05-11-2023, 1:51 PM
Parsimony is the enemy of quality.

chuck van dyck
05-11-2023, 2:57 PM
Can’t argue but it’s not my money to spend and time is always in short supply.

Kevin Jenness
05-11-2023, 3:10 PM
As Andy suggested, wetting out the void with straight resin/hardener before mixing in any thickeners will improve bonding and keep the mix from pulling out while taking no more time. Using a router as described above will put less stress on the fill when knocking it down.

Phillip Mitchell
05-11-2023, 3:36 PM
I don’t do this much, but had to do it a handful of different times over the last year and always just sent it threw the thickness planer. Probably did 1/16” passes and had no issues at all. Maybe I was lucky. I used west systems slow curing and waited at least 24 hrs of cure times before planing. I did make an attempt to not have a bunch of extra epoxy so the high spot was maybe a 1/16” if that higher than the wood.

Dan Hahr
05-12-2023, 10:58 PM
Like Phillip, I fill before finishing to final thickness. Planer does a great job of cutting it flush. Card scraper tends to get a thousandth or so low, as does a ROS. Flat block of wood with sandpaper works fine.

If it tears out or chips, just use some superglue or mix up some more epoxy.

Dan

John C Bush
05-12-2023, 11:19 PM
When filling defects,splits, voids, etc. in big slabs it usually takes several pours and I usually overfill. I was clogging way to much sandpaper so I got a ski tuners Ptex rasp, mounted it to a wood block handle and it works great. My file style rasps have tangs and no way to hold them in the middle of a large slab and the ski tuners rasp have no tang and countersunk hole in each end to attach to block handle. they are sharp and aggressive and save both paper and time. on Amazon and IIRC ~~$27.00.

Frederick Skelly
05-12-2023, 11:32 PM
I use a sharp hand plane.

Dave Cav
05-14-2023, 9:51 PM
I generally use a Sureform rasp followed by the planer/widebelt/ROS.

Daniel O'Neill
05-15-2023, 2:31 PM
Heat gun and card scraper to get flush. I have in some lighter colored woods had dark pigments dye the wood and had to sand a little to get past it.

This is it! The heat will soften it up quite a bit. Just don't overdo it.

Bob Falk
05-17-2023, 9:11 AM
I have made dozens of charcuterie boards inlaid with epoxy.I typically run through my drum sander. Light passes with 60/80 grit and then finish with my RO up to 320. Only problem I have had is if the epoxy was not totally cured, as many have mentioned. I now wait several days before sanding and always use spray shellac on the wood before applying epoxy to prevent bleed.
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Roger Feeley
05-19-2023, 5:37 PM
I guess I’m in the minority. I’ve used both sander and thickness planer with no trouble.

Gordon Stump
05-20-2023, 7:37 AM
Yup, a thickness planer works fine. So does a stroke sander followed by a RO sander. Let it fully cure first. I fill from the back so there is not much to sand down.