Please assist with age of these two T.Robinson & Son machines.

[Noel Greeff]

I have searched many sites on the internet but have been unable to find any info on these two machines photographed below. Can anybody please assist ?
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[Phillip Mitchell]

Mark H and/or Jack Forsberg both may know. Sending up the Robinson Bat signal...

[Warren Lake]

id be careful with bats, old school pigeons are good