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David Metzman
03-17-2023, 12:36 PM
I was thinking about buying a large Robust Comfort Rest. I have never used one (or seen one in person) but it looks good to be able to keep your hand under the tool. Now I see that Nova modular rests look similar. I can not find the dimensions of the the top part of the rest itself. How do they compare? Is the nova rest as wide from top to bottom (not talking about the post) to get hand underneath. I currently have Oneway rests. Worth getting something new or not much of a difference really?

Thanks,
David

Edward Weber
03-17-2023, 2:43 PM
I can't comment on the Nova but the Robust rest was probably the best lathe accessory I ever bought.
The top never gets dings or nicks, tools slide easily, it just works well.

Dueane Hicks
03-17-2023, 3:41 PM
The Nova rest is no where near as tough as the robust. Mine gave way as the weld broke. They are probably ok on smaller lathes and sizes. I have several of the modular box rests and they are good.

John K Jordan
03-17-2023, 4:08 PM
I have a variety on Robust rests and recommend them highly. I haven’t used any of my non-Robust rests for years (I’ve given most away)

I have no experience with the Nova modular rests. I see the Klingspor site gives dimensions for one, 12”x1-1/4”

One thing that concerns me about the Nova is this statement from their manual: “PLEASE ENSURE THE TOOLBAR IS FIRMLY THREADED ONTO THE TOOLPOST AND IS SEATED TIGHTLY BEFORE USE. INCORRECT SEATING MAY LEAD TO DETACHMENT, FAILURE AND INJURY.” Seems like it could be a disaster if the threads holding the long horizontal rest to the post came loose, say with vibration from heavy cuts cuts or a catch. This couldn’t happen with a welded post.

Of course if the tool post on any rest loosened in the banjo it could also be dangerous. However the clamp mechanisms on all my lathes are quite sturdy.

Also, I like grabbing a rest from the rack and quickly putting it into the banjo. I’m not sure I would enjoy the extra steps of detaching the horizontal rest and attaching a different one to the tool post, then making sure the threads were REALLY tight each time I switched (and I switch a lot between 4 or 5 tool rests.) With a modular system I’d want a separate toolpost for each rest which might be a consideration of comparing prices (but I didn’t check prices).

I also didn’t compare the warranties on the Nova and Robust. Robust has an unconditional lifetime warranty, or at least they did the last time I ordered some.

(It might sound like I am hawking for Robust but i'm just a satisfied customer!)

JKJ

John Keeton
03-17-2023, 5:11 PM
I agree with the others on Robust rests - all I use. But, I prefer the low profile rather than the comfort style.

Russell Nugent
03-17-2023, 7:46 PM
I've got the 12 inch nova modular rest and a robust 6 inch as well as 12 inch j rest. The nova works fine for spindle work, but was terrible for bowls, would unthread until I used permanent thread lock on it. The tool rest is definitely lighter weight than the robust. I would go for the robust.

Robert Hayward
03-17-2023, 8:07 PM
Robust tool rest for me also. One of the few woodworking accessory purchases I could not find anything to complain about.

David Metzman
03-18-2023, 8:18 PM
thanks a lot. I will buy a robust. The posts are not too expensive - I was assuming i would just leave it in. I may by a box one though from Nova.

John K Jordan
03-18-2023, 8:27 PM
thanks a lot. I will buy a robust. The posts are not too expensive - I was assuming i would just leave it in. I may by a box one though from Nova.

Box rests are great, makes working inside a deep box easier. I have one from Robust and one from Best Wood Tools.

Dave Bunge
03-18-2023, 8:56 PM
thanks a lot. I will buy a robust. The posts are not too expensive - I was assuming i would just leave it in. I may by a box one though from Nova.

Steve Sinner also makes a tool rest with a hardened rod steel rod on top. I've got a bunch of Robust tool rests, but plan to try a Sinner one next time I make a purchase. The advantage claimed for the Sinner rest is that it allows allows more flexibility with how you use your gouge. Specifically that you can drop the gouge handle lower, like you might want to do with shear scraping. With the Robust, comfort rest at least, the angle is limited a bit more by the handle hitting the post or the base of the tool rest.

Sinner tool rests are available from AdvancedLatheTools.com or from the Sanding Glove.

John K Jordan
03-19-2023, 12:36 AM
…The advantage claimed for the Sinner rest is that it allows allows more flexibility …you can drop the gouge handle lower, like you might want to do with shear scraping. With the Robust, comfort rest at least, the angle is limited a bit more by the handle hitting the post or the base of the tool rest.
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That’s true. I’ve gone to the Robust low profile for almost all turning which gives more clearance.

There are a few cases where the comfort rest has advantages so I keep one long one. I have a photo of one of these advantages in action if I can remember to post it when I’m not reading SMC from this iPadI

David Metzman
03-19-2023, 4:54 PM
i just ordered a standard robust 15 inch long post (I have a big oneway)- you think it it better to order the low profile? What is the difference in size in terms of getting your hand under the tool? Thanks

John K Jordan
03-19-2023, 7:29 PM
you might call Robust, tell them what you want to do with it, and ask for advice. they can give you pros and cons of both types

Jason Edwards
03-20-2023, 8:57 AM
i just ordered a standard robust 15 inch long post (I have a big oneway)- you think it it better to order the low profile? What is the difference in size in terms of getting your hand under the tool? Thanks

Hi David, go to turnrobust.com and find the toolrest page. There is a video that will probably tell you what you need to know.

Greg McClurg
03-20-2023, 10:36 AM
I have both the Robust and Steve Sinner (Advanced lathe tools) tool rests and prefer the Steve Sinner rests myself.

William C Rogers
03-20-2023, 12:13 PM
I also have both the Sinner and Robust rest. I prefer the low profile as it is better for me inside bowls. Hard to say if Sinner or Robust is better as I have the 14” Sinner used when that is the best size, but use the 12” Robust when that size is the best to use.

Reed Gray
03-20-2023, 12:13 PM
I did make inside bowl rests for a while, but quit making them because the 'business' took up all of my play time. For a straight rest, which I almost made, I prefer a straight angled one rather than the curved one like Robust makes. I am talking about the support bar under the hardened drill rod. The curved ones that Robust sells, I do use them, but I feel that they are made for specific hand sizes, and just don't 'feel' right for me. I attended the Oregon Wood Turning Symposium last weekend, and Big Monk Lumber was there and he had some of the Steve Sinner rests. They are well made, but I don't care for the design. D Way Tools was there as well, Jimmy is making some longer straight rests, and they are the round bar rests. I use a couple of his short box rests which I love, but still prefer the angled rests for straight rests and spindle work. The thing with the larger diameter round bar, as you raise and lower your handle, the fulcrum point moves. I don't like that. D Way is now selling hardened M42 HSS for epoxying onto your standard tool rests. That should work well. I would think, that like the hardened drill rod, you could weld them in place if you have welding experience, and the hardening of the bar should not be bothered. It didn't bother the A2 drill rod that I used for my rests. Robust is making a similar to mine, S shaped inside bowl rest now. I told Brent to go ahead with it. He does make a very good product.

robo hippy

David Metzman
03-22-2023, 9:04 AM
thanks for the help