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Mike Allen1010
10-26-2022, 10:04 PM
This is a build thread for a Walnut sofa table in the Greene & Greene style that matches a pair of coffee table and side table I previously built. For those not familiar, Greene & Greene style is characterized by a combination of Craftsman and Asian design elements which characteristically include through tenons, ebony plugs inlays and “cloud lift” details on horizontal frame members.

Here is the cloud lift detail on one of the side rails.

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Lots of through joinery on the four corner posts that frankly greatest attribute is aesthetic not necessarily structural. Bridal joint for top rail to post. An essential tool for this build was a Lee Valley 3/8 inch square mortise cutter for the ebony plugs inlays.

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Here’s the dry fit of the side of the carcass and close-ups of through tenons and ebony plugs.

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Next was creating the raised panel frames for carcass sides with central divider. Here’s a picture of tools I use for raising panels and final result.
With side carcass assemblies completed, next step was carcass front styles and rails to accommodate three drawers on top and three doors below.

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Mike Allen1010
10-26-2022, 10:09 PM
This pic of top of front left post shows overlapping pattern of through tenons.

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Here is the internal structure of drawer runners and kickers for the top three drawers. This is one of my favorite jobs because goes quickly with soft, secondary woods and glue/screw joinery.

https://i.postimg.cc/MZBnBzP4/21.jpg (https://postimg.cc/MXWZ2J8b)



Fitting flush drawers is always the something I take pride in. My typical approaches to work from a reference corner with the bevel gauge and saw and plane drawer fronts to fit nicely.

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Mike Allen1010
10-26-2022, 10:16 PM
Next was cutting drawer sides/backs out of pine. I have a shop made crosscut jig that would like to replace I can only find a miter box that fits my 30 inch long, by 5 inch deep miter saw. I confess I’m confused by the various manufacturers and model numbers of miter boxes and don’t really know what I need. Any suggestions?

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Some pics of dovetailing drawers. For me through dovetails are fairly straightforward. I try to save time by ganging drawer sides together.

https://i.postimg.cc/mrqrcnQB/28.jpg (https://postimg.cc/R37myXsD)

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I struggle little bit more with the half blind dovetails I use for the drawer fronts. My approach is drill press and Forstner bits remove the bulk the waste and clean up with chisels. For this job I find skew chisels super helpful.

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Here is fit of assembled drawers.
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Next is cutting Motice & tenon joinery for the three doors. This is a hand tool job I really enjoy. My go to rip backsaw is shop made 9 PPI. This is sawing task where speed need not be the enemy of accuracy. Pics of sawing shoulders.

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Mike Allen1010
10-26-2022, 10:26 PM
Interior edge of doorframes has a ¼” bevel on show surface. Personally I think ripping off the bevel on vertical members and trimming the 45° miter with chisel and guide block are jobs that resulted in highly visible results and are worthy of time and attention.

https://i.postimg.cc/YCP78Wjx/43.jpg (https://postimg.cc/75SjZb3C)

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Central door has a lattice of quarter-inch square cocobolo (didn’t want to spend the dollars on ebony). Tried to talk the boss into this design for all three doors but her concept for this piece is to be able to store as much crap inside as possible, not the display case I had in mind.
https://i.postimg.cc/D05kGWtL/46.jpg (https://postimg.cc/n9sPbLVh)

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Here’s some pics of completed panels and doors with ebony plugs.

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Back is shiplapped vertical grain Doug fir.

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Drawer bottoms are aromatics Cedar.

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Here’s some pics of the completed piece.

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Mike Allen1010
10-26-2022, 10:26 PM
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Thanks for looking, Mike

BTW, sharing I finally accomplished the empty-nester move into a smaller house – went from 3 car garage, which included my shop to a two-car garage. If anyone is interested, happy to share some pictures of design modifications the shop I made to accommodate this smaller space. Please let me know if you’d like me to share details.

steven c newman
10-26-2022, 11:28 PM
A Millers Falls Langdon No. 75 will take a 30" long saw. There is one in my shop, at the moment, takes a 5" x 30" miter saw.

Jim Koepke
10-27-2022, 1:52 AM
Very nice piece Mike. I especially like the grain flow across the drawers.

jtk

Graham Haydon
10-27-2022, 4:35 AM
Mike, thank you for sharing this build. It's nice to see pictures! As I'm not a paying member I do miss out. Not complaining, 'tis house rules.

What's the top? Looks like stone?

The Greene and Greene style is not something I see over here. I am aware of Greene's influence but my knowledge is limited.

Was the timber a local source? Aromatic cedar? Makes me think of Cedar of Lebanon but that's pale, your drawer bottoms look reddish with defined sapwood. Tell me more!

It's certainly a piece that will be greatly appreciated, congratulations!

William Fretwell
10-27-2022, 8:58 AM
Have you tried doing an angled cut with a dovetail or Japanese saw for the half blind drawer fronts? Seems like an easier way to define the edge before clearing out the waste, good chisel guide as well.

The drawer bottoms are lovely, shame they won’t be visible when drawers are in use!

Mark Rainey
10-27-2022, 9:16 AM
It all came together in a magnificent table Mike! Your pics of your work flow are invaluable, and as a fellow Neanderthal, I will use as a reference for my own work in the future. It looks like quarter sawn pine for the drawers which is best for long lasting smooth drawer action. I assume you had to glue some quarter sawn stock together to get the needed width...were you able to find quarter sawn that wide?

James Pallas
10-27-2022, 10:07 AM
Very well done Mike. Both the piece and the write up first class work.
Jim

Jack Frederick
10-27-2022, 1:05 PM
Wow, Mike. I believe this Sears/Hempe box will handle a 5” saw. It is yours for the cost of UPS boxing and shipping if you would like. I like my Langdon box and don’t need another.

Andy Mail
10-27-2022, 1:17 PM
Am I the only one that can't see Mike's photos?

Mike Allen1010
10-27-2022, 5:12 PM
A Millers Falls Langdon No. 75 will take a 30" long saw. There is one in my shop, at the moment, takes a 5" x 30" miter saw.

Thanks a lot Steve I really appreciate your suggestion. I'll keep my eyes open, however Southern California is kind of a hand tool desert compared to other parts of the country so I guess I'll end up trolling the mega-auction site.

Cheers, Mike

Mike Allen1010
10-27-2022, 5:16 PM
Mike, thank you for sharing this build. It's nice to see pictures! As I'm not a paying member I do miss out. Not complaining, 'tis house rules.

What's the top? Looks like stone?

The Greene and Greene style is not something I see over here. I am aware of Greene's influence but my knowledge is limited.

Was the timber a local source? Aromatic cedar? Makes me think of Cedar of Lebanon but that's pale, your drawer bottoms look reddish with defined sapwood. Tell me more!

It's certainly a piece that will be greatly appreciated, congratulations!

Thanks Graham I appreciate your feedback. The top is some kind of stone, I just don't know which kind. As I mentioned, this piece matches a coffee table and end table I built previously. In all three cases I use the stone that came at the existing store-bought tables. I recently purchased a piece of granite to be the top of the Thomas Seymour federal style bar I built quite a while ago I think it was roughly 50 inches long by 20 inches wide and the cost was around $300. I'm hoping to pick it up tomorrow and I'll post some pictures of the completed bar.

Drawer bottoms are aromatic Cedar, which I believe it is a domestic species native to the South Eastern US? It's really soft and works easily with hand tools and smells great. Tends to be fairly knotty.

Mike Allen1010
10-27-2022, 5:18 PM
Have you tried doing an angled cut with a dovetail or Japanese saw for the half blind drawer fronts? Seems like an easier way to define the edge before clearing out the waste, good chisel guide as well.

The drawer bottoms are lovely, shame they won’t be visible when drawers are in use!

Thanks for the suggestion Bill. I tend to go back and forth between me technique you described, over sawing the baselines and just pairing to the layout lines with a chisel. Not sure which really works better for me. In this case I think the fit turned out okay.

Mike Allen1010
10-27-2022, 5:23 PM
It all came together in a magnificent table Mike! Your pics of your work flow are invaluable, and as a fellow Neanderthal, I will use as a reference for my own work in the future. It looks like quarter sawn pine for the drawers which is best for long lasting smooth drawer action. I assume you had to glue some quarter sawn stock together to get the needed width...were you able to find quarter sawn that wide?

Good eye Mark – yes drawer sides/backs are pine that is almost quarter sawn. I picked through the pallet at the local lumberyard defined the pieces I used here. I know some people prefer harder species for drawer sides to better combat where over time. For me, as a mostly hand tool guy, I can't turn down the opportunity to plane/chisel/saw pine – just too much fun!

BTW, I loved your recent post in the projects forum about your Queen Anne chair- absolutely gorgeous detailed carving of not only the ball and claw feet but also beautiful detailing on the back! How did you bend the curved chair rail? Steam bending is something that has always seemed too intimidating to me but I would like to give it a try. Thanks for your inspiration!

Mike Allen1010
10-27-2022, 5:39 PM
Wow, Mike. I believe this Sears/Hempe box will handle a 5” saw. It is yours for the cost of UPS boxing and shipping if you would like. I like my Langdon box and don’t need another.

Well Jack I don't know what to say – that's incredibly generous of you! I can't accept as a gift, but would be happy to trade you a couple restored/sharpened/tuned vintage hand saws and gladly cover cost of packaging and shipping. I'll send you a PM so we can sort details, if that works for you.

I'm constantly amazed at the generosity of the SMC community – I'm grateful to have this venue to share, learn and be inspired by each other!

Cheers, Mike

William Fretwell
10-27-2022, 9:24 PM
Seems you are the only one! Lots of good photos to look at as well!

Ben Ellenberger
10-27-2022, 9:52 PM
That’s really nice work!

I liked your detail shots about making the mitered corners for the door. I’ve only done that once before and found it fussy to get a good result. It’s nice to see the steps you followed.

Jack Frederick
10-28-2022, 1:56 PM
Box should be there by Tues. Let me know if it will work for you.

Phil Mueller
10-29-2022, 6:55 AM
Beautiful piece, Mike. Well crafted as usual. You found some really nice walnut…love working with it. Hope you are well and congrats on the new home!

Mike Allen1010
10-29-2022, 1:57 PM
Beautiful piece, Mike. Well crafted as usual. You found some really nice walnut…love working with it. Hope you are well and congrats on the new home!

Phil, great hearing from you! I hope you're getting to enjoy working some walnut soon. Please look me up if you make it out to So. Cal. - you're always welcome to stay with us!:) However now you can't even see the guest room floor or bed because their covered with stuff I think of as Junk, but Sherrie sees as Treasures- ugggggh!:eek:

The new " empty nester" house is definitely a work in progress! I guess Sherrie understands "you can't fit 2 pounds of rice into a 1 pound bag" at some level , but getting rind of things that don't fit anymore is proving to be emotional challenge for her. I confess I don't really understand intellectually, but try to be patient and supportive -however with varying levels of success. I'm afraid a year from now we'll still have roomful's of decorations/clothes/furniture sitting in the garage. I guess I'm in the market for a backyard shed I can store some stuff in?

All the best, Mike

Mike Allen1010
10-29-2022, 1:58 PM
Box should be there by Tues. Let me know if it will work for you.

Thanks a lot Jack- saws are on the way!

Michael Bulatowicz
10-31-2022, 8:25 AM
Beautiful work once again, Mike.

I always appreciate the level of detail you go into in these build threads, particularly with the photo documentation. Thank you for sharing.

Mike Allen1010
11-03-2022, 7:55 PM
Beautiful work once again, Mike.

I always appreciate the level of detail you go into in these build threads, particularly with the photo documentation. Thank you for sharing.


Thanks Mike, glad to know I’m not overdoing it with the pics!