Used Laguna SUV bandsaw

[lou Brava]

Got a line a 6 year old "lightly used" Laguna 14" band saw. Online reviews are mixed (what a shocker) seems it's all complaints about the ceramic guides. Looking for for some input on weather or not the saw is worth buying. It's listed for 1200 with 4 new blades. Or any thing I should lookout for when I go see it. I'm not sure what to look for this will be first band saw buy for me. I'm going to have him resaw a wide board & if it does that well I'd think it would be worth getting.
Thanks

[Justin Rapp]

I have a Laguna 14BX, the 14SUV when it was produced had a 3hp motor, mine has a 2.5hp. The 14SUV also uses a 125" blade (vs 115 for the 14BX) and can handle a blade up to 1" thick, vs 3/4" for the 14bx.

- One thing the 14SUV lacks is a tall resaw fence (going from my memory). It can absolutely resaw, but if you plan to resaw tall boards, a fence mod or upgrade might be good for safety reasons, 100% not a show-stopper.
- The ceramic guides are really not an issue at all. I tend to like them and most complaints are because people don't know how to set the saw up properly. There are youtube video's to help show you how to set up the guides.
- I see you will ask the seller to resaw a wide board, but you also need to ensure the current owner has the correct blade to do this. If the current owner was using the saw for different work, he maybe not have a good resaw blade, and your test will not be successful. The right blade is more important than many think.

$1200 seems like a fair price given the cost of pretty much everything right now, if it's lightly used and well maintained. If you make an offer for a 1000 and he takes it, that is a bonus for you. This machine new was most likely about $2000 when it was available for sale.

[Paul F Franklin]

Not much to add to what Justin said, but as a another data point, I like the ceramic guides on my 18BX. I suspect folks that don't like them may be feeding stock too fast and too hard for the blade in use and therefore are forcing the blade against the guides a lot.

[Dave Sabo]

unless it was neglected thats good price on a 14suv.

Ask yourself this: what other 14" bandsaw can I buy for the same money ?

[Bill Bukovec]

When you see the saw, try adjusting the guides and see how you like it. I have one that's older and I think it's a major pain in the neck to adjust the guides.

[lou Brava]

Thanks guys, sounds like it's a good machine. A plus is one of the blades that comes with it is a brand new resaw king so doing a test on wide board shouldn't be a problem. And yeah I haven't found any other 14" saw with same spec. for that money. I did see a brand new Rikon 14" with a 13" resaw for 1495.00 amazon but I have feeling the used Laguna is a better buy if it's in decent shape.

[andy bessette]

...Ask yourself this: what other 14" bandsaw can I buy for the same money ?

No. Ask yourself: "Why am I not considering a 16" or larger."

[Justin Rapp]

Thanks guys, sounds like it's a good machine. A plus is one of the blades that comes with it is a brand new resaw king so doing a test on wide board shouldn't be a problem. And yeah I haven't found any other 14" saw with same spec. for that money. I did see a brand new Rikon 14" with a 13" resaw for 1495.00 amazon but I have feeling the used Laguna is a better buy if it's in decent shape.

OK good, so your test cut will be using a solid (best of the best) blade. That blade alone is about $175. If you plan to use that blade, your deal just got even better. The 14" RIKON, which I am thinking you saw the Rikon 10-324TG, which is a $1300 saw, but 1500 on Amazon to help offset shipping. It in the same class as the 14SUV, let alone the Laguna 1412. If you want to compare the Laguna 14SUV with Rikon, you need to look at the Rikon Model 10-353, which is about $3000. Depending on where you live, you need to include sales tax and freight (if you have it delivered vs pickup at a local tool dealer).

I also see Andy asked you about considering a 16" or larger. Well, this question is a legit question, and I somewhat kick myself a bit when I bought my 14BX that I could have had an 18BX for about $400 more (at the time).

[Alan Lightstone]

No. Ask yourself: "Why am I not considering a 16" or larger."
I agree, having sold my 14SUV for a larger bandsaw. I'm thrilled that I moved up in machine size. Better in all respects, but $$$.

[Curt Harms]

The back of my brain says Harvey sells the same saw with different paint, not sure about the blade guides. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. You could check on the new price for one of those but I think $1,000 - $1200 is fair, especially with the blades included.

[Dave Sabo]

All you armchair quarterbacks rec'ing this saw or that.....................are they $1200 ? Incld. tax ?

Do they come with a $150 carbide blade ? Or any blades for that matter ?

Do they have a real 3hp American made motor , or a probably, kinda, sorta, maybe 3hp motor made by the lowest cost provider in the pac rim ?

And did y'all consider lou might want to do scroll work ? Or have low ceilings in his shop ? Those trophy big wheel saws y'all are pushing don't fare well if those are on your criteria list. Sure , there are better saws out there for re-sawing. Might as well get a 24"er while you're at it.

For future readers of this thread, I'd suggest you post some links where they can find a 16" , 18" or 24" saws for $1200.:confused:




lou - does the saw in question have a mobility kit installed ? That's another + What about the add on laguna driftmaster fence ?

[andy bessette]

...suggest you post some links where they can find a 16" , 18" or 24" saws for $1200...

I bought my 16" MiniMax for $1500 and my 20" Agazzani for $1700.

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[lou Brava]

OK good, so your test cut will be using a solid (best of the best) blade. That blade alone is about $175. If you plan to use that blade, your deal just got even better. The 14" RIKON, which I am thinking you saw the Rikon 10-324TG, which is a $1300 saw, but 1500 on Amazon to help offset shipping. It in the same class as the 14SUV, let alone the Laguna 1412. If you want to compare the Laguna 14SUV with Rikon, you need to look at the Rikon Model 10-353, which is about $3000. Depending on where you live, you need to include sales tax and freight (if you have it delivered vs pickup at a local tool dealer).

I also see Andy asked you about considering a 16" or larger. Well, this question is a legit question, and I somewhat kick myself a bit when I bought my 14BX that I could have had an 18BX for about $400 more (at the time).

Haven't consider a 16" or larger, (I'm a hobby woodworker) having never owned one I always managed to come up with a work around for BS work or was able to use a friends shop which I never liked doing. I have a project I'm starting where a BS will save me a lot time and frustration. And now I have place to put one and a small budget to buy one. I can see the advantage for a larger saw but for my needs & budget I'm pretty sure a 14" will do. The used Laguna is actually a little more $ than I wanted spend on a used BS but I know I'll be much happier having a quality tool than trying to save a few hundred bucks or buying new and getting way less of a tool.
Thanks again for everyone's input !

[George Yetka]

I have the 14 SUV. I like it now at first I couldnt figure out the setup on the ceramic blocks. I dont use the bandsaw as much as I should so I usually have a big resaw king on it. I went for this one because its small enough to not take up alot of room and can do fine work as well as large rip when necessary. I wish it had a better fence but not so much that I changed it or modified it

[Rick Potter]

My only advice to you is to not wait too long to decide. Good deals do not last long.

[Greg Parrish]

My only advice to you is to not wait too long to decide. Good deals do not last long.

Agreed. Go test it and buy it while it's still there. Run, don't walk.

As for Andy's post, I'm jealous/envious of the price you found that MiniMax and Agazanni, but that world doesn't exist right now. Hope it comes back, but ever since CoVid, prices have gone slap crazy. You can barely find a saw better than Harbor Freight listed for the $1k to $2k range any more when you look at places like Facebook Marketplace. I know there are good saws out there, but it takes a lot of time and waiting to find the deals and usually you have to be willing to go drive 200 to 500 miles unless you live in a very high population area.

In my area of north Florida, there is nothing even close to a 14" Laguna SUV listed in the classifieds for $1200. Closest I can find is a 14" Powermatic cast iron saw, which is a nice saw, but it certainly is not a steel frame 3hp resaw machine. Having previously owned a Grizzly 513 Extreme 17" model, and a Minimax 16" model, I'm keeping my eyes open for a nice 14" to 16" saw myself that can handle light resaw work with a 3/4" blade but also scroll work with a smaller blade. Would love to find something with 2 to 3 hp that was near the $1k mark myself.

[lou Brava]

All you armchair quarterbacks rec'ing this saw or that.....................are they $1200 ? Incld. tax ?

Do they come with a $150 carbide blade ? Or any blades for that matter ?

Do they have a real 3hp American made motor , or a probably, kinda, sorta, maybe 3hp motor made by the lowest cost provider in the pac rim ?

And did y'all consider lou might want to do scroll work ? Or have low ceilings in his shop ? Those trophy big wheel saws y'all are pushing don't fare well if those are on your criteria list. Sure , there are better saws out there for re-sawing. Might as well get a 24"er while you're at it.

For future readers of this thread, I'd suggest you post some links where they can find a 16" , 18" or 24" saws for $1200.:confused:




lou - does the saw in question have a mobility kit installed ? That's another + What about the add on laguna driftmaster fence ?


Yeah, pretty much what you said. I will be doing some curves/scroll cuts with it & it does have a mobile base, not sure on fence as far as I know it's stock fence. And what others have said the used tool market is horrible and a saw like this new is just too much $ for me.
I'm going tomorrow morning to get it & fingers are crossed saws in good shape it's a 2hr drive one way. If it makes home I'll post a pic or 2
Thanks again everybody.

[Alex Zeller]

I can't help much with that saw but i can add to the "go bigger" argument. For $1200 with spare blades you can always upgrade later and get most of your money back if you decide that having a BS is great and now you want a larger one. I went from a 14" to a 19" and don't regret it one bit. The extra throat capacity and over all weight is nice. But I wasn't ready to go big right off and it took a few years before I decided to do the upgrade. It sounds like you'll not have to put a cent into that BS for years to come so even if you pay $1200 we would have to be in a deep recession to not be able to get at least $1000 a few years down the road.

[lowell holmes]

I have a 14" Jet with a riser block. I am completely satisfied with it.

[Justin Rapp]

The back of my brain says Harvey sells the same saw with different paint, not sure about the blade guides. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. You could check on the new price for one of those but I think $1,000 - $1200 is fair, especially with the blades included.

I just looked at the Harvey and it's almost the same, and even says about 15,000 units have been sold under mainstream brands, so basically different paint jobs and some minor differences in the hardware and guides. It's on sale too right now, but you need to choke up about $350 for shipping. The downfall of Harvey is their crazy shipping prices, but the 'sale' price on the saw makes it very attractive if in the market. If I upgrade, it's going to an 18"

[lou Brava]

Ended up buying it, hopefully I got a good machine if it continues to work as it did when tested I'll be happy.
A CL sale for sure ! Guy said He bought machine new 4 years ago and was adamant it only had about 20 hrs on it I ended up not believing either claim. Overall it looks good ran great, wheels seemed to run perfectly true & it resawed a 30" long board very true. It came with 5 brand new blades (if anybody has any use for still in the box 125" 1 X.035 3TPI Arntz blades I'd be happy to trade or sell I have 3) I need a 3/8 4-8tpi blade. Also came with a Driftmaster fence, no stock fence, 4" dust collector hoses & Y, a 20' 8ga ISO extension cord, a homemade mobile base, a new 3/4 3TPI resaw king, a new 1/2" 3TPI blade & a 3/4" 3TPI blade that's on the saw. I need to cut some 2" radius in 2 1/2" Oak & want to buy a decent blade for that I'm thinking 3/8" 6TPI ? any suggestions would help.
Thanks
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[andy bessette]

Attaaboy! Sounds like a good find.

[John Kananis]

Incredible deal. Especially with the blades.

[George Yetka]

If you really want that stock fence Ill trade you for the driftmaster.:rolleyes:

[Justin Rapp]

Good deal - you might be able to find a production date decal on it, or give Laguna an e-mail with the serial number and they can most likely give you the production date. You got yourself a great saw!

[Frank Necaise]

Nice looking Bandsaw and deal. Hope you get to use it a lot!

[Alan Lightstone]

Congrats. Nice deal, for sure.

You'll like it. I liked mine. Never had an issues with it.

[Alan Kalker]

You've been given good advice above. I have the Laguna 14 SUV (about 9 years old and heavily used) and like it. Given the space and money I'd opt for a larger BS with a bigger motor and capable of using bigger blades for resawing but I don't have major complaints.

[Dave Sabo]

you suck !

If you're not happy I'm sure there are guys here that'll take it off your hands for $1200.

I'm not sure why you're skeptical of the 4yr old / 20 hr claim. That saw was only available in a small window of time which fits the 4yr. claim. It clearly doesn't have a lot of miles on it based on the looks + blades N.I.B. and if the blade you tried the test cuts on cut true and steady then it doesn't have a lot of time on it either.

In fact, based on the pic I wouldn't be surprised if the run time was less than 20hrs.

[Curt Harms]

you suck !

If you're not happy I'm sure there are guys here that'll take it off your hands for $1200.

I'm not sure why you're skeptical of the 4yr old / 20 hr claim. That saw was only available in a small window of time which fits the 4yr. claim. It clearly doesn't have a lot of miles on it based on the looks + blades N.I.B. and if the blade you tried the test cuts on cut true and steady then it doesn't have a lot of time on it either.

In fact, based on the pic I wouldn't be surprised if the run time was less than 20hrs.

5 hours of run time per year for an occasional use hobbyist whose jobs are not bandsaw centric seems reasonable to me. A new Resaw King blade and driftmaster fence gotta be what, $500 new or so?