3/4" D-Way bowl gouge

[Neil Strong]

Does anyone on this forum have the 3/4" D-Way bowl gouge?

[Bill Bukovec]

I have a 5/8". Is that close enough?

[Reed Gray]

I do have one, and don't use it. I have several 5/8 gouges, both D Way and Thompson, and for gouge work, they are my go to tools. I just find the 3/4 too big for practical work. Some do really like them. I am different in that I do all of my heavy roughing with the Big Ugly tool, which is a 1 inch wide scraper.

robo hippy

[Neil Strong]

I have a 5/8". Is that close enough?

Bill

Thank you for your post.

Your 5/8" D-way may be relevant to my query. Does your 5/8" have a parabolic or U flute profile?

I have some of Dave's 1/2" and 5/8" BGs with the parabolic flutes, so I'm familiar with those.

His 3/4" BG only comes with the 'U' fluted profile, so I'm seeking input on that.

[Neil Strong]

I do have one, and don't use it. I have several 5/8 gouges, both D Way and Thompson, and for gouge work, they are my go to tools. I just find the 3/4 too big for practical work. Some do really like them. I am different in that I do all of my heavy roughing with the Big Ugly tool, which is a 1 inch wide scraper.

robo hippy

Reed

Thank you for your post.

What I'm seeking is input on Dave's 3/4" BG, which only comes with the 'U' fluted profile.

Is your 3/4" BG from Dave and does any of your other BGs from Dave have a 'U' flute?

Like you, I have a bunch of BGs from Dave and Doug T, but all with either the parabolic flute from Dave or the 'V' flute from Doug.

I do have one BG with a 'U' flute, the Crown 1", but that one is another thing altogether.

It's the 'U' flute on Dave's BGs that I'm seeking input on?

Regards

[CHARLES D Richards]

Reed

Thank you for your post.

What I'm seeking is input on Dave's 3/4" BG, which only comes with the 'U' fluted profile.

Is your 3/4" BG from Dave and does any of your other BGs from Dave have a 'U' flute?

Like you, I have a bunch of BGs from Dave and Doug T, but all with either the parabolic flute from Dave or the 'V' flute from Doug.

I do have one BG with a 'U' flute, the Crown 1", but that one is another thing altogether.

It's the 'U' flute on Dave's BGs that I'm seeking input on?

Regards


Neil,
I have the 3/4" BG and use it to initially rough out large bowl blanks. I like it and find it hogs out wood faster than my Thompson 5/8".
My preference is large bowls 16"-20" so the D-way gouge has been a benefit as most of those large blanks are hard to round on the bandsaw.

Dave

[Neil Strong]

Neil,
I have the 3/4" BG and use it to initially rough out large bowl blanks. I like it and find it hogs out wood faster than my Thompson 5/8".
My preference is large bowls 16"-20" so the D-way gouge has been a benefit as most of those large blanks are hard to round on the bandsaw.

Dave

Dave

Thank you for your reply.

That is the same purpose for which I purchased the D-way 3/4" BG. I do most of my turning with 5/8" BGs, but reach for my 3/4" Thompson or Woodcut BGs when doing the initial roughing down of larger bowl and platter blanks, and occasionally also for my Crown 7/8" and 1" BGs.

When I got the 3/4" BG from D-way I was surprised just how thin the remaining metal was in the bottom and sides of the 'U' flute and how light and bouncy it was on the tool rest when roughing down irregular blanks. I had become used to having more steel remaining in my other larger Thompson, Woodcut and Crown BGs.

Here are three BGs below one another to show the difference; 3/4" D-Way at the top, 3/4" Thompson with secondary bevel and 1" Crown at the bottom...

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3/4" D-Way

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3/4" Thompson

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Crown 1"


And, here are the thicknesses of the remaining steel in the bottom of the flutes of those three in the same order, plus the 3/4" Woodcut BG...


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3/4" D-Way - 3.6mm

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3/4" Thompson - 7.5mm

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Crown 1" - 7.6mm

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3/4" Woodcut - 7.4mm

The remaining thickness in the bottom of the D-way is significantly different from what I would expect in a larger BG. I'm starting to wonder if my 3/4" BG from D-way is different from how they mill their standard 'U' flutes.

If convenient, Dave, would you mind putting your vernier calipers across the remaining metal in the bottom of your 3/4" D-Way BG?

Thank you

[Reed Gray]

Never noticed that the 3/4 gouge has a U flute. They do not take a swept back or 40/40 grind well. May be why I didn't care for it. As for the other D Way gouges, they are all a V flute, similar to the Thompson gouges.

robo hippy

[Dave Mount]

The picture of the Dway looks like a spindle roughing gouge, not a bowl gouge...

[tom lucas]

I use Thompson 5/8" BG's. The U-shape in an irish grind is great for the inside of bowls. The V shape wasn't as good inside. So, I reshaped it to a 40/40 grind. Now that is my favorite on the outside of bowls. With a steady hand and some finesse, the U-gouge can cut across the bottom almost as good as my bottom feeder (1/2" Sorby U). I've been experimenting with a scraper for roughing bowls. Seems to remove a lot of material quickly, especially when cutting with some air.

[Pat Scott]

Neil if you're interested I have a Glaser Hi-Tec 3/4" bowl gouge with parabolic flute. It measures just under 1/4" thickness under the flute.

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[Neil Strong]

Never noticed that the 3/4 gouge has a U flute. They do not take a swept back or 40/40 grind well. May be why I didn't care for it. As for the other D Way gouges, they are all a V flute, similar to the Thompson gouges.

robo hippy

Agree with you there RH, deep U flutes don't take so kindly to swept back grinds. The wings on my 11/4" SRG have been creeping back over the years and the top of the wings on that are a bit thugly now!

[Neil Strong]

The picture of the Dway looks like a spindle roughing gouge, not a bowl gouge...

Yes Dave, here is the 3/4" D-way on left and my P&N 11/4" SRG on the right (ignore the the graphics that I added for another purpose)... same profile!

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But, at almost twice the size, there is substantially more meat in the P&N SRG.

Must weigh the two to show how light weight the D-way is in comparison.

[Neil Strong]

I use Thompson 5/8" BG's. The U-shape in an irish grind is great for the inside of bowls. The V shape wasn't as good inside. So, I reshaped it to a 40/40 grind. Now that is my favorite on the outside of bowls. With a steady hand and some finesse, the U-gouge can cut across the bottom almost as good as my bottom feeder (1/2" Sorby U). I've been experimenting with a scraper for roughing bowls. Seems to remove a lot of material quickly, especially when cutting with some air.

Thanks, Tom.

Other than my Crown 1" BG that I use for roughing down larger pieces, all of my current BGs are either parabolic, catennary (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catenary) or V in the case of my current Thompsons, so I have little recent experience with U fluted profiles. Of course, like everyone else, I had to use BGs with the U flutes before the parabolics came along, but never like them very much. For example, the following photo has from left to right a P&N, Thompson, D-way and Crown Ellsworth. I let the the P&N with that more U profile go to a good new home!


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For the inside bottom of bowls I found that a 65° bevel on any of those BGs worked well, so didn't need a dedicated U flute for that.

And, yes, the 40/40 does a good job on slicing down the side grain with almost all of those flute profiles other than the U.

[Neil Strong]

Neil if you're interested I have a Glaser Hi-Tec 3/4" bowl gouge with parabolic flute. It measures just under 1/4" thickness under the flute.

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Thanks Pat.

That looks like a much healthier amount of metal to me in the bottom of a 3/4" BG.

I have no doubt that it performs very well.

That is such a sweet flute profile.

All hail Jerry!

[CHARLES D Richards]

Neil, sorry for the delay, colonoscopy yesterday and prep the day before but all ok. Caliper acting strange but the thickness at bottom of flute looks to be 3.6mm

[Neil Strong]

Neil, sorry for the delay, colonoscopy yesterday and prep the day before but all ok. Caliper acting strange but the thickness at bottom of flute looks to be 3.6mm

Charles

Many thanks for that measurement.

Same as mine, so it looks like 3.6mm is the standard thicknesses at the bottom of the U fluted 3/4" BG from D-way .

I've tried different bevel angles on mine, other than a 40/40 (as not so suitable on U flute), starting with the one that came on it, but have found none to be that satisfactory. What bevel angle are you using on yours?


And, pleased to hear that you got a good report from your 'procedure'.