A Tour de France in the study of Art

[Dan Sheehan]

I mentioned this group in the context of our lamentation over Notre Dame after the disasterous fire almost three years ago. I have no doubt that a full and faithful restoration is possible if the Compagnons are in charge. Neanderthals are alive and well indeed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veECjU6edQg&t=116s.

Dan

[Tom M King]

Many thanks for posting this!

Every one here should enjoy watching this. Bumping it up after only a couple of hundred views.

[Dan Sheehan]

Many thanks for posting this!

Every one here should enjoy watching this. Bumping it up after only a couple of hundred views.

Thanks Tom. I think I posted it poorly with that title and not much info to promote a click on such a rich site as this. I'll do beter next time.

BTW one guy mentioend in the video is Patrick Moore in Ottowa. He has his own school with online classes. What he can do is simply amazing. With no math

[James Pallas]

Thanks Dan. That is very interesting. I would have loved to do such a thing. To have had a chance to learn to visualize and understand is really something.
Jim

[Tom M King]

I want to build a pair of sawhorses like the one shown at 4:35. Unfortunately, they will have to wait for their place on the to-do list.

[Rafael Herrera]

I've seen those elaborate sawhorses before, in this and other websites, http://www.historicalcarpentry.com/french-trestles---treteaux.html.

I've not had a chance to view the whole video yet, but it shows snapshots the web site above.

Those diagrams remind me of a class called "descriptive geometry" we had to take in engineering school as a freshman. That was a tough class.

[Axel de Pugey]

I was always fascinated by the Compagnonnage, the Compagnons du devoir are part of their own world, with their own rules, a special way to shake hands, their name is changed for the region they are from etc.
There are several museum in France where you can see their masterpieces.

Note that in the movie posted by Dan, you can see a traditionnal German journeyman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journeyman_years) (5:59), I don't know much about them. I think the german system is a bit different but you still see some of them masters on worksites or walking by the roads in Germany with their big hat, large trousers and specific black and white outfit; while if you don't see them shaking hands, or notice their earrings (but I am not sure this last one is still a rule) you won't notice a compagnon du tour greeting another one.

I cannot elaborate specifically about l'Art du Trait, but in line with the several places where Compagnons crafts can be seen, there is a specific museum full of their tools (but not only theirs): the Maison de l'Outil et de la Pensée Ouvrière.
Here I found a short official intro movie in french (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J08M6LzxlgE) and a longer movie in english (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WFnXcrlxvk) (nice router at 3:31).

The library of this museum is extremely rich and should be full of books on l'Art du Trait.

P.S: I apologise to Dan Sheehan if I am out of topic

[Derek Cohen]

I mentioned this group in the context of our lamentation over Notre Dame after the disasterous fire almost three years ago. I have no doubt that a full and faithful restoration is possible if the Compagnons are in charge. Neanderthals are alive and well indeed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veECjU6edQg&t=116s.

Dan

Dan, thank you so much for posting this. It is quite an eye opener, potential life changer in the context and focus on details that are often taken for granted.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Ben Ellenberger]

Thanks for posting this. Now you have me wanting to make some sawhorses…

I’ve done a little searching on-line for practical application reference material. All I’ve found so far is a series of books written by Sim Ayer. They may be self-published. If anyone has feedback on those or other material I’d be interested in hearing it.

[Ben Ellenberger]

I found this demonstration of how to do the lay-outs and projections in each plane for drawing elevations. This is a step beyond my college drafting classes, but I think I’m going to get some big drafting paper, squares, and rules, then play around with laying out and cutting some models.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTycsHD03HQ

[Rafael Herrera]

This is in fact descriptive geometry. I'll have to do a refresh of this stuff, it's been over 35 years.

[Kris Cook]

Thank you for posting this.

Here's to hoping that the importance of craft will not be lost in this digital world.

[Dan Sheehan]

https://www.core77.com/posts/123862/An-Architecture-Students-Project-Made-Notre-Dames-Restoration-Possible

I was worried about the rebuilding of Notre Dame given our modern times. Until I saw this article. This is the gold standard of Neanderthal in my book. What do you thinK

[Kevin Jenness]

Here's a thread from the general woodworking forum on one part of the roof reconstruction project. https://sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?301446-Notre-Dame-roof-reconstruction

[Edward Weber]

Thanks to everyone who provided the links, I appreciate it.