Sorry, plane type question

[Ray Bohn]

I have a #3 with some confounding variables using Hyperkitten

It seems to meet the criteria for Type 15 but..
Doesn't have a broad flat rib cast in the toe. just heel
The frog has the ogee shape mentioned in Type 16
The lateral adjustment lever has Stanley in a vertical orientation as mentioned in Type 19

Using another Type chart, the result is Type 15 only because I answered no again to "broad flat rib cast in the toe AND heel".

Possibly a type 19 frog on an earlier body?
BUT-- any help as to what plane bodies had the broad flat rib cast in the heel only?

Thanks for any ideas.

[Rob Luter]

Frankenplane?

[Jim Koepke]

Some of the plane bodies were not big enough to include a rib at the toe.

Another site that is only available in archives shows and explains this a bit:

475400

Notice the two planes at the top. Neither of them have ribs at the toe.

This site has dropped of the web but is still available in web archives > https://web.archive.org/web/20191222134355/http://www.rexmill.com/planes101/typing/typing.htm

When these planes were made, the makers had no idea there was going to be a type study. If there were parts left over from a previous type, they were used in production.

Type studies are a guide, not gospel.

jtk

[Ray Bohn]

Some of the plane bodies were not big enough to include a rib at the toe.

Another site that is only available in archives shows and explains this a bit:

475400

Notice the two planes at the top. Neither of them have ribs at the toe.

This site has dropped of the web but is still available in web archives > https://web.archive.org/web/20191222134355/http://www.rexmill.com/planes101/typing/typing.htm

When these planes were made, the makers had no idea there was going to be a type study. If there were parts left over from a previous type, they were used in production.

Type studies are a guide, not gospel.

jtk

Thank you for your prompt response. I noticed that there is no room at the toe for the described flat rib.

[Ray Bohn]

Some of the plane bodies were not big enough to include a rib at the toe.

Another site that is only available in archives shows and explains this a bit:

475400

Notice the two planes at the top. Neither of them have ribs at the toe.

This site has dropped of the web but is still available in web archives > https://web.archive.org/web/20191222134355/http://www.rexmill.com/planes101/typing/typing.htm

When these planes were made, the makers had no idea there was going to be a type study. If there were parts left over from a previous type, they were used in production.

Type studies are a guide, not gospel.

jtk

The site explained that there wasn't enough room on the toe of the #3 to have the rib. Once I got beyond the rib question, -it is a Type 19. . That cleared up the confusion.

Some dude is asking $250 for the exact plane. Best 'O Luck.

[Jim Koepke]

The site explained that there wasn't enough room on the toe of the #3 to have the rib. Once I got beyond the rib question, -it is a Type 19. . That cleared up the confusion.

Some dude is asking $250 for the exact plane. Best 'O Luck.

Even Patrick Leach doesn't ask that much for a #3 unless it is a type 1 or some other collectable.


ST10 #3 smoothing plane, ready to use out of the box; an early
1920's first sweetheart model, it's been cleaned, but is
dusty from sitting in a working shop; the iron is sharp,
instant gratification with this one; bottom:
http://www.supertool.com/forsale/mar/t13.jpg $120.00

This would be a type 12 #3, a type that is very desirable.

Patrick Leach usually sells at what some might think of as high retail.

jtk

[steven c newman]

475418
These are users, for me....Stanley No. 3, Type 11
475419
They are nice, little smoothers...