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Jim Koepke
02-07-2022, 9:05 PM
Many folks sing the praises of the Stanley #42X saw set as being the one to have. Of course when enough people want one it can cause prices to go up.

Some prefer the Millers Falls #214. There are many saw sets from which to choose. Having had a few others, the Stanley #42X is my choice. It is what is known as a pistol grip design. Many others have a plier’s grip.

There are also hammer set tools and some like to use a screwdriver.

My two user saw sets are set up different:

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The one on the left has had the plunger filed for setting smaller teeth. Stanley, according to the instruction sheet, offered a plunger for setting teeth smaller than 14 ppi. Good luck finding one.

The 42Xs that have come my way have all been marked in two places:

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The image shows the 42X under the main body and on the inside of the front handle.

If someone ever did a type study on these, about the only thing that looks to have changed on the ones in my shop is the cutout notch that rests against the saw blade being set:

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The one at the bottom has an arched cutout. One the top left is a square cutout. On the right there is a small groove cast in the square cutout.

Disassembly isn’t difficult:

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The hardest part is getting the handle free from the plunger.

The parts are as follows starting at the upper left:
The bent piece of metal is for setting light weight circular blades.
To the right of that is the main body piece.
Below and to the left is the thumb screw to hold the anvil.
Note, all the screws have a 10-28 thread. (good ol’ Stanley threading)
Next is the anvil adjusting screw, the anvil and the pivot screw for the handles.
Below that is the clamping bushing and the plunger. Below them are the springs. The small one goes on the plunger and is inserted into the clamping bushing. The larger spring goes around the clamping bushing and is then inserted into the main body.
Finally there is the front handle.

This one had weak springs so a replacement set was purchased from someone on ebay selling them. The new plunger spring was a hair too long and prevented the plunger from fully engaging a tooth. A little was ground off of both ends to correct this:

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These can be a bit of a pain putting back together.

The hard part is getting the holes for the screw and threads aligned. There is a fairly easy solution:

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A small deep socket (3/8” - 1/4” drive) was used in a vise to press the handle into place and align the holes.

It actually was easier with the set up flipped over to see the threads and using the screw driver from the underside.

One of my #42X saw sets had a broken screw. This led me to purchase a saw set that was missing parts to get a proper replacement screw.

Originally a #10 brass wood screw was cut and threaded as a replacement but when one for parts became available it was snatched up.

When looking for one of these, remember there is only a single screw through the body. Also note the look of the screw(s) for adjusting the anvil. One model looks similar but there is a much larger piece at the front of the tool. Stanley made a few different saw sets with the #42 involved. Do not expect sellers to know the difference.

Hope this is of help to those looking for one of these wanting to make sure all the parts are there.

jtk

Jack Frederick
02-07-2022, 9:29 PM
Thanks for this, Jim. I am, it seems, a collector of assorted hand saws. Maybe not a collector but an accumulator. Pretty sure there is a significant difference there. I need to take a run at sharpening them and I do not have a set. Great info!

Justin Hoshue
02-19-2022, 4:13 PM
Jim,

Great breakdown. I ended up with two 42Xs (so far). One with a dead spring and one with an odd anvil and a tiny gap.

Can you look at these and compare them to the ones you have that work? The face of the anvil on the near one goes straight up, then slopes sharply back towards the hammer before sloping away. This weird ‘jut out’ leaves no room for the saw plate to pass. On the other one, the anvil goes straight up, and then gradually slopes away from the hammer. The one with the weird anvil also fastens to the body differently.

Justin Hoshue
02-19-2022, 4:27 PM
Jim,

Here’s a better shot of the offending anvil. Also for Rick to see. Looks to be from a regular 42. I don’t know how it got in there but I can’t even get it out.

Jim Koepke
02-19-2022, 7:00 PM
Jim,

Here’s a better shot of the offending anvil. Also for Rick to see. Looks to be from a regular 42. I don’t know how it got in there but I can’t even get it out.

It may be the stud's threads are tighter in the anvil than it the nut. It might be removable if the plunger and holder are taken out. That can be a pain in the backside bit of work.

Otherwise you might have to find a couple of nuts to thread on to the stud and jam them together to remove the stud to get the anvil out. The problem with this is if they are Stanley parts the threads are likely 10-28.

It might be possible to file or grind the errant anvil to match the anvil in your other #42X.

jtk

Mike Manning
02-22-2022, 11:43 PM
Jim,
Your post was very well timed. Look what I got in the mail today.


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Before it arrived I got a message from the PO saying he realized after shipping that the saw set had a No. 42 anvil on it. He apologized for not checking before sending it. He also said the No. 42 anvil is larger than the 42X and the saw blade wouldn't fit. A No. 42X anvil is in the mail. After cleaning the rust off and getting familiar with the saw set I'll try to start to learn how to recognize when saw teeth may be in need of a reset. I've been trying to find a reasonably priced 42X for several years.

Jim Koepke
02-23-2022, 1:11 AM
Wow! That is just like one Justin in a previous post has. Hopefully the seller sends you the proper fastener for the correct anvil.

A caliper makes it easy to measure the thickness of a saw plate and at the top of the teeth to see how much set there is.

It isn't difficult to make a "poor man's" caliper with a U shaped piece of metal with a nut and screw added. In a pinch one could make a crude measuring device with a couple of nuts and a screw.

Feeler gauges are another inexpensive tool often already in many folks' toolkits.

jtk

Mike Manning
02-23-2022, 11:39 AM
Jim,
Reading that there are different fasteners for different anvils is disconcerting. He didn't mention different fasteners. Sigh. I do have several calipers but my Starrett dial caliper is my preferred one. Looking forward to learning about sharpening and setting up saws.

As always, thanks for sharing your time and knowledge.

Mike

Jim Koepke
02-23-2022, 4:20 PM
Jim,
Reading that there are different fasteners for different anvils is disconcerting. He didn't mention different fasteners. Sigh. I do have several calipers but my Starrett dial caliper is my preferred one. Looking forward to learning about sharpening and setting up saws.

As always, thanks for sharing your time and knowledge.

Mike

Hi Mike,

If you look at the images Justin posted you will see one like yours and one with the correct bolt. The image in my post shows the bolt (a shouldered thumb screw?) that should hold the anvil.

You might contact the person who shipped the anvil to see if he also included the bolt.

If the fastener on your current set up has a 10-28 thread you might be able to make it work if they do not have the correct fastener.

jtk

Mike Manning
03-14-2022, 1:41 PM
Hoping this Stanley 42X is all there. Even has an original manual.


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Jim Koepke
03-14-2022, 11:56 PM
It looks like it even has the attachment for doing circular saw blades.

jtk