Leftovers....again

[steven c newman]

From that last Project..
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1/2" x 5-1/2" by random lengths...Red Oak...and a 3/8" thick chunk of Ash..

Looking around for a small project, remember a Desktop Organizer from Paul Sellers I made a few years back....thought I would try it again, so the plans were downloaded, again..
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Have already changed the cut list....to suit what I have on hand...
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Will worry about that drawer, when I get there...
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Biggest thing, was to get the 4 sides cut...and a lid and a bottom panel..
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The Panels...1/2" x 5-1/2" x 12-1/2"....and..
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These 4 pieces...sitting upside down on the bench. Ripped for width of 4", with the skinny top pieces at 2". Lengths adapted to fit the bottom/top panels.

And that was about it for the morning session.....

Stay tuned..:D

[steven c newman]

Got bored last night, watching the weather ( or, rather lack of) so figured an hour in the shop late last night might help...
First off, Paul uses a solid wood panel to provide the "floor" of the top compartment, sitting on glued in "slips". Hmmm, well..thinking some decent 1/4" Plywood, sitting in some grooves/rebates could work just as well. Wanted to get those done, BEFORE any dovetailing get started...

That piece across the front....gets a rebate..
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While the other 3 boards get a groove to match..
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Rebate maker..
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1/4" x 1/4" rebate...Red Oak tends to get a bit.."squirrely" Then reset the fence, and plough the matching grooves..
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Should have stopped right here...but...

Not liking them HUGE dovetails in the plan..:mad:..decided to try to lay out some more to my liking...Paul does tails first...I, on the other hand, like pins first...:rolleyes:

Tried the tails first layouts....brain wasn't getting the concept very well....stopped BEFORE any bad saw cuts were made...then just laid out the pins...
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Right leg was telling me it was QUITTING TIME! so, before any saw cuts were made...called it a night.

Weather today is not fit for Man Nor Beasty outside..be a good day to just sit around IN the shop....I can saw and chop the pins and tails, while sitting on my shop stool...

Stay tuned....:D

[steven c newman]

Ok...Laundry Detail at 2100 hrs....so...did some more lay out work...and 2 extra cuts to mark out..
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Had to be careful where this thing was cutting...
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Needed to leave this tab...
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And had to be careful where I chopped..
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Then an Atkins No. 50 to clean things up..
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Mainly to trim the tab for rough length....then use these pins to lay out the tails, then cut the tails, and chop out the waste...then a dry fit..
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Something holding things up? this won't go any further down...kind of rocks in the middle....hmmm?
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Better to be oversized, than too small. Once this is trimmed to fit, things will close up...sealing off the square hole from the groove. Which is why I had to take my time with the layouts....

I might dig around tomorrow, and locate a new blade for that coping saw..
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Blade almost as old as that Atkins No. 50.....about time for a new blade?

Stay tuned, 3 more corners to do, then trim the plywood to size..
Kind of snowed in, at the moment....:rolleyes:

[steven c newman]

Corner is close enough, for now...will close up when the clamps go on..
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And a start on corner #2 has been laid out...
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Plywood will need a trim, though..
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Once all the sides are done, and before a glue up happens.

Stay tuned...

[steven c newman]

Hmm, honey-do jobs...gotta love them....NOT. had to put off the shoptime for a while, today. Then, when I finally got to the shop, was only able to put in 90 minutes of work....too tired, too sore, and getting flustered.....had 3 tasks to do, today....Task #1 was to complete the corner #2's dovetails....the Atkins Coping saw wasn't working out..switched it out with a Millers Falls version...it even had a sharper blade :D
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mainly to clean up after the chisels, and trim that stub tenon...dovetail saw for a few cuts..
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Chisels to chop out the waste...clean up with the coping saw (like a rasp?) then a sharp No.2 pencil to trace around the pins...then over to the bandsaw to make a few cuts...
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Why the bandsaw? It does a better job than I do, on angled cuts. plus I can see the lines better, while staying on the waste side of the lines. A few extra cuts to help the waste leave the area.

Dry fit took a bit...involved a mallet. to both assemble and disassemble....yep, was a bit..tight.
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Corner #2 is on the left...

Once I had things together, and square (for now) I could mark the plywood panel for length....then the Stanley No. 358 could make the square cut..check for fit?
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I'll mark for width later, once the front of the box is done.
Task #2 is done....Task #3? Weeeellll..
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Brain Pharts...trying to figure out the cuts needed...and still cover the groove...then started tails first....stopped there. Relaid for Pins first...to at least match the already laid out tails.
Below this 2" wide board will be a drawer. Plywood panel gets tucked up into a rebate on the inside of this skinny board. Would be nice NOT to see any grooves. No square holes that would need filling.

Leg was starting to cramp between the back of the knee and the hip...about a baseball sized one, at that. :eek: Time to just stop here, and try again tomorrow....:cool:

Stay tuned...:D

[steven c newman]

Ok, corrected that mistake...pins first...
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Then the tails to match..
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Then a dry fit..so I can cut the plywood to fit..
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Then repeat for the other end....
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Transfer the lines across...saw and chop
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Then see how this all fits together...
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Needed to plane that ragged edge a bit...was holding the one corner up a hair...

Then clamps, glue and a brush to smear the glue around..
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Including c clamps to hold the plywood into the bed of glue along that rebate...

Let this sit a day....stay tuned...

[steven c newman]

Maybe after Lunch. I'll get those clamps off....and continue with Episode #2...
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Need my bench vise back, anyway....

Stay tuned....film at 2300 hrs...

[steven c newman]

Ok..clamps came off slowly..
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Then the usual cleaning up began...even some detail work,,,
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Leveled the edge...then see how this will fit onto the bottom panel..
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According to Sellers, the edges of the bottom panel get a rounding over..with a plane, of course....starting with the end grain..
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Then do the long grain edges..
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Check how it fits..
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Then a small bead of glue, and 7 clamps..
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After looking the panel for the lid over..
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Determined that is was too narrow..we have ways...


Crosscut and ripped a close match, then glued that to the matching grain. Will let both of these glue-ups sit a day

Figured that was enough, for today's shoptime...

Stay tuned..:D

[steven c newman]

Box came out of the clamps, today. Needed the bench space...first was the old Monarch Metal Vise was needed to fix the hinges...from too gappy..
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To "no gappy"...
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Toss these two into the box, for now...needed a plane set up..
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As the lid gets a shallow rebate all the way around the underside..BEFORE any round-overs can happen.

Next...lid came out of it's clamps...needed a glue line to disappear...
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Do both faces....best looking of the two will be the outside of the lid...

Laid it out for width, cut that...that see how it sits..
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Same overhang all the way around. Then dug out some scraps...
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These will get milled into a drawer....

Stay tuned...:D

[steven c newman]

Ok, need to go and finish up the tasks in Episode #2 and #3....today. Waiting on Lunch to settle through. Film at 2300 hrs....I hope.

Tasks for today:

Establish the "field" on the underside of the lid.

Round over the edges of the lid

Lay out for the hinges in the lid, and install the hinges

Use the hinges to lay out the location on the box, and install the hinges to the box

Last part of Episode #3: Install the "floor" of the compartment.....already done, my version....plywood, not solid wood.

Might take an afternoon to do...we'll see

Stay tuned..

[steven c newman]

Ok..Rebates are done..
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Round overs are done...
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Hinges are installed in the lid..
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Then used to lay out the hinge mortises on the box, and install the lid to the box..
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Close the lid, check for any gaps...
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Found none. Can now rough cut some parts to build the drawer...
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2-1/2 hours in the shop, today.....kind of sore, right now....think the drawer will have to wait a day..

Stay tuned...

[steven c newman]

Well, just got done watching the Episode #4......Sellers doing the dovetails for the drawer. Hmmm...well, first a trip to Krogers for the Boss....then we'll see....Might even do tails first, this time..for the 1/2 lap front corners....the back? We'll see.....Sellers uses slips for the bottoms...I use a groove to house mine. This MIGHT get "Very Interesting" to quote Arte Johnson.....

[steven c newman]

The plan for today..
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Involved connecting the sides to the front of the drawer, with half blind dovetails...
First was to get the parts to the right sizes. His drawer is 1-1/2", mine is 2" deep/tall...
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Sides needed to allow for the front of the drawer...so...

There needs to be a shallow rebate milled on the ends of the sides, then tails were laid out. Then sawn, then chopped, then pared...then used to lay out the pins..
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Then the sawing, chopping and paring work...until a dry fit, Corner #1..
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LOTS of chisels in use, lots of cussing to help out....then repeat for the second corner..
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At least I get better as I go along....last time I made half blind dovetails....involved a router table...
Did I mention chisels?
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Ok, at this point in the Sellers Video, he stopped. So, the way my back was hurting, right between the shoulder blades...figured I would do the same.

I can try again tomorrow, to through dovetail the back to the sides?
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And maybe plough the grooves to house that plywood bottom panel?

Stay tuned..:D

[steven c newman]

2-1/4 hours in the shop, today...area between the shoulder blades is hurting, again....the extra 15 minutes was more for camera work, than woodworking.....Decided to dry fit the 2 sides and the drawer front, and see how it looks in the box..473620
Was afraid to push it too far in....might not get the drawer back out:rolleyes:
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And a front view. Have a couple wooden knob options...either a single one, or, a pair?
Time to lay out some pins...first....
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Might just have enough tools for this job?

Stay tuned

[steven c newman]

Ok..some saw work was in order..
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Then chop about halfway..
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Then flip over, and complete the chop
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Then clean up the chops...
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Use these pins to layout the tails....saw, chop, pare dry fit...
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Repeat for the last corner..
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Time to do the grooves....was unable to jig a way to hold the short end pieces still for the Stanley 45 to cut a groove...we have other ways..
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The test the plywood bottom panel for a fit.....width was fine...however, length was NOT....a lot of nibble, check, nibble, cuss, check..Finally!
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might as well glue this together..
Stay tuned....

[steven c newman]

And a forest of clamps shows up....
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Will let this mess sit overnight...and see how it looks in the morning.

I'm pooped....back is sore, had computer issues trying to process these photos.....

Stay tuned....:D

[steven c newman]

Clamps removed...found an issue..
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Or, rather 2 issues. Back of the drawer has holes. Had some Rosewood scrap, and made two plugs...
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Problem solved. Front got planed smooth. Ends weren't too hateful..
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Question was whether 2 knobs were too much..
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or just one..
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Hmmm, decided one will be enough..cordless drill..
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Then a dab og glue and a clamp...
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Let this sit a bit....then 1st coat of Amber Shellac..
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Stay tuned...

[steven c newman]

While waiting....a look around?
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The other end of the box...and
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Hinge side..and..
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A look at the front...have been letting this sit all opened up..
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Don't want anything to get stuck...now do we...

Will add a second coat after a bit....Was still a bit sticky..

Stay tuned..:D

[steven c newman]

Have rubbed the box and drawer down a second time, with 0000 steel wool, AND a clean rag....not a real glossy finish...should be good enough to sit around in the shop.

Film when I can get it processed....

Stay tuned

[steven c newman]

Ok..
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Front view..
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Open the drawer..
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Open the lid...
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Top of the lid...
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End details..
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Underside of the box..
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Other end of the box....

About 2 weeks to do....must be getting slow in me old age...

Thanks for looking in, from time to time..

[steven c newman]

Box will be staying in the shop. Once a spot is cleared out for it at the "East End" of the bench.....all the pencils and other small layout tools will be headed there, as well.

Drawer will hold all the small hardware parts.....and a couple tools to install them with...

Just have to clean this spot out...
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This MIGHT take a while to do....