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andrew whicker
12-28-2021, 3:03 PM
I generally build what I want before worrying about the nomenclature. What is a panel called when it uses both stiles and rails and the panel is flush to both faces of the stiles / rails (i.e. one thickness throughout panel)? I've certainly built one, but I'm not sure what it's called.

I Googled flush panel woodworking stiles and rails... nothing really comes up. It would have to be called something similar, I would think.

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Phillip Mitchell
12-28-2021, 3:20 PM
Not sure what that’s called. Is the panel a veneered ply/mdf?

I have done solid wood panels on custom interior doors in a somewhat similar style, but there are reveals due to the expansion and contraction of the solid wood panels. It creates a pleasing shadow line / negative space around the panel (that changes a little bit side to side through the humidity changes in a year) but still looks nice, modern and clean and everything is square edged and not molded, rounded, or beveled.

It’s nice to have something delineate the space and difference between rails/stiles and a panel, in my opinion. Just gives it some depth and interest, though I don’t really have traditional tastes and generally dislike heavily ornamental moldings / copes, but everyone’s different.

Is this door going to be painted or clear / stain finished?

andrew whicker
12-28-2021, 3:27 PM
veneered mdf.

andrew whicker
12-28-2021, 3:32 PM
I like the doors. I also tend to not have traditional outlooks.

Jim Becker
12-28-2021, 3:58 PM
I don't know what the name is if there is a formal name. But I'd call it a flush panel. If it's solid stock, there kinda needs to be a groove/reveal to accommodate wood movement. If it's veneered composite, I believe you can have everything tight.

Mel Fulks
12-28-2021, 5:28 PM
When dealing with contractors, we referred to panel faces a little lower than frame as “standard” . Panel faces same height as panel frame
as “ flush raise”. Panel face about 1/4 inch above frame as “off-set” panels”. I would not be surprised if all 3 types have different titles
in other shops. If there is no standard nomenclature in your town to explain to customers who are shopping what panel type ,or types you
offer. It is possible that one of the trade associations has a system now considered the “right one” for all good “professional” box makers.
If they do….then copy it so that you can hear and absorb newly invented panel processes !

Mel Fulks
12-28-2021, 5:48 PM
Andrew, if the panel you show is all same thickness at every point ,it is something I have not seen before. The name I’m gonna use is….
”me no like type panel”.

Kevin Jenness
12-28-2021, 9:29 PM
It's a good idea to keep those veneered panels exactly even or just a scosh lower than the frames and have accurate registration at the corners or risk sanding through when levelling the stile and rail joints. A small reveal such as Philip shows is more tolerant of minor inaccuracies. The first design Andrew shows could be done as well with a veneer sketch face.

Sean Nagle
12-29-2021, 12:18 AM
It could be considered a slab panel.

Mel Fulks
12-29-2021, 12:37 AM
I’m sorry for being so far afield with my first post . When I saw a reply with photo of doors, I thought we were being asked about panel
work. Never crossed my mind that that piece of plywood was the “panel”.

Carl Beckett
12-29-2021, 6:38 AM
I do these, and have a cutter set for them. It is called a 'Shaker' cutter set. There is an undercut wing on the cutter to determine the offset between the panel and rail/style face plane.

For whatever that is worth, a different manf may call it something else. Really just a tongue/groove setup and can run all the pieces the same setup.

One thing I like to do on these is use spacers in the groove the panel rides in. Something compressible. So that when the panel moves it does so uniformly since the gap is really noticeable when more on one side than the other.

Warren Lake
12-29-2021, 12:28 PM
Thos Moser does what Phillip shows only with a bevel or cove cant remember I just do a cove like that on back solid panels with flat front.

David Utterback
12-29-2021, 2:06 PM
Is the back of the panel rabbeted all around so the back is flush with the inside rails and stiles? Other than that, I have always thought they were called raised panels and many cove profiles are common. Freud used to make a set of router bits that included the back cutter.

Jeff Roltgen
12-29-2021, 7:51 PM
Since it's your creation, you could simply call it a Whicker style door! :D

But seriously - it just is not any type of readily identifiable "traditional" door build. It is quite simply a slab door that happens to have extra wide edging.